Elections 2016 Iowa Caucus Thread

[Lead]

Sanders has gotten pretty riled up and recent debates.

He's been very very soft with Hillary and every swipe he's taken has usually been indirect with he standing right there.

Sanders is actually smart on domestic policy.

Never made a comment about whether the policies were smart or dumb. I said they both focus on domestic policy more.

Sanders is not afraid of confrontation with Hillary or anyone else.

Didn't make a comment about whether he fears it or not. Said he avoids it and he has as he's had plenty as chance to attack Hillary and contrast each of their campaigns.

You're reaching here. You can't say that people would view them similarly.

I didn't mean they would be viewed exactly the same. I was saying in a debate, I think you would get very similar results where people don't dislike him but they certainly don't want to vote for him.

They are diametrically opposed to one another.

Policy wise for the most part, yes. That wasn't what I was talking about however.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I wouldn't call NH "strong establishment".

It sure as fuck isn't conservative.

 

[Quipling]

@SleepyBoy @ShoelessRye @speakhandsforme @ncordless @Lead Salad @Quipling @Sansara with the predictions right now.

(People who selected both cruz and clinton to win)

 

[uncommon]

Is this really that accurate?
o malley has 7 total votes?
clinton has 642
sanders has 638? you can't even break 1k votes in a state with 3.1 million people?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

 

[Lead]

Cruz won Iowa by cutting promos of himself in camo, out duck hunting, with a neck-bearded redneck, while said redneck inevitably spoke about the evils of government and decline of American value, and how Cruz was the only candidate that could be trusted, based on his duck-hunting abilities. I'm not even kidding. He stole the 'Murican vote in Iowa, with cheesy campaign ads.

He won because he travel to every county like Santorum did in 2012 and won the key endorsements that Iowa cared about with King and VanderPlatts.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Really it doesn't matter who get more votes at this point, they both get 15 delegates no matter what at this point.

It does matter. Victories are very important in sustaining momentum.

 

[ncordless]

It sure as fuck isn't conservative.

Its got a strong libertarian bent to it.

 

[Mondo Freaks]

Is this really that accurate?
o malley has 7 total votes?
clinton has 642
sanders has 638? you can't even break 1k votes in a state with 3.1 million people?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

those are delegate votes

 

[ncordless]

Is this really that accurate?
o malley has 7 total votes?
clinton has 642
sanders has 638? you can't even break 1k votes in a state with 3.1 million people?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Thats delegate counts.

 

[in the]

Sanders needs to stop running a vaginal campaign and go after Shillary's many flaws.

 

[Lead]

I wouldn't call NH "strong establishment".

I guess not with the way polls look right now. If you do take Romney's percentage last election or all four of the establishment's percentages (Bush, Christie, Kasich, Rubio), they beat Trump in NH. It definitely is more establishment out of the first four states you'd agree? I really don't know how to pin down SC though.

 

[carlos cadona]

It does matter. Victories are very important in sustaining momentum.

Well Bernie has a huge lead in NH, so he can easily overtake her in delegates for at least a period of time.

 

[uncommon]

those are delegate votes

Thats delegate counts.

you guys 100% sure? it clearly states "votes" and delgates at zero

following the same table cruz for 50k delegates? no way how many delegates are in iowa? i thought it was just a handful

i think clinton and sanders are literally below 1k in actual votes

 

[COTUR1@43]

You won Ted, don't ramble on for an hour. I think he maybe is in shock that he beat Trump...he just can't believe he won.

 

[The Diplomat]

It sure as fuck isn't conservative.

Is pro-establishment the opposite of conservative?

 

[GSP in 2006]

He won because he travel to every county like Santorum did in 2012 and won the key endorsements that Iowa cared about with King and VanderPlatts.

He really did just follow Santorum's blueprint. Percentages wise Cruz did do a bit better though. 28% to 25%.

 

[Satanical Eve]

The best way forward is not you Hillary

 

[BKMMAFAN]

Clinton is so grating on the ears.

 

[in the]

It

its damn close!!!

I heard that at one point, Cunton was up by 50% on Sanders. Shillary might "win," but Sanders is making her nervous.

 

[fordman7795]

you guys 100% sure? it clearly states "votes" and delgates at zero

following the same table cruz for 50k delegates? no way how many delegates are in iowa? i thought it was just a handful

i think clinton and sanders are literally below 1k in actual votes

L2Caucus