** 2016 Election Day Discussion **

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It will be that bitch Michelle Obama
Because she previously held elected positions before like Hillary? I don't think she did. I don't think she wants to run. I think she would prefer a more normal life now.
 
But I didn't vote for Clinton. Couldn't bring myself to vote for her because I was so pissed the Democratic party left me with no other choice so I wrote one in

I want the Dems to see all the protest votes they pissed down the drain when they anointed such a "nasty women" as their candidate.


Well good for you. Then my apologies for including you.

And I have to say that is a bit nasty of a statement there. Never did I call anyone racist for supporting Trump and in fact I even argued with some leftists here in defense of the majority of Trump supporters. And to say Hillary supporters aren't real Americans is pretty ugly so it seems even winning this election hasn't soften you. Hillary was a stupid bitch when she called half f the Trumpites deplorable but she was right about at least one Trump supporter it seems.

I didn't vote for Trump but if he lost I would never have thought to try and shame my friend who did over it. I'm kind of happy for him and all the Trumpites even though I don't have high expectations for Trump(which is an understatement). And I'm very amused to see the whining of hypocrite leftists who went all in on a shitty neoliberal war hawk. If y'all had elected Bernie perhaps we wouldn't have lost the entire fucking Rust Belt and might've actually won.

So on one hand you criticize me for being "pretty ugly". You do this all the while calling Hillary a "stupid bitch" and calling me "repugnant" and "deplorable". When are you going to soften up? When are you going to stop being ugly? Or is just ugly when I do it?

There is something you don't factor in probably because you didn't experience it. I made that thread not even 12hrs after coming off of an entire year of what felt like, and actually was, the entire world calling us deplorable, delusional, poor, uneducated, and losers. Most of the posters I put in the OP have all done these things. After a year of total and complete arrogance and insults...they can't take eat a bit of crow?

In regards to being "pretty ugly". Theres another thing you haven't experienced. And that is war room members calling you personally...racist, sexist, homophobic, dumb, retarded, an uncle tom, a fake person, a troll, and everything else. I've never complained or reported people...I've never even put a person on ignore. I just roll with it and respond in kind. Perhaps I'm too thick skinned and assume others can just roll with it as well. Perhaps I should consider others feelings more. Like if someone calls me repugnant and deplorable I should consider how they might feel if I call them a thin-skinned sissy la-la? Or maybe I can just not take it too personal, respect and accept it if that's how they really feel, and assume they'll do the same?

In regards to "shaming". What if I believe that knowingly voting for a person who is guaranteed to sell out the country in a myriad of ways is a shameful act? Should I not call it such? If you feel like someone's posting is repugnant would you not call it such? Don't be a hypocrite Kafir. You have been harshly critical of me and have insulted my personal character multiple times now. Which is ok btw. Believe it or not I have always respected you as a poster so your opinion is one I consider even when it's critical as fuck. So don't sit over there and pretend you are above using nasty language, harsh criticisms, and heavy condemnation.

And most of all, even though none us of really know what Trump is going to do, I see the vote for Trump as a rejection of neoliberalism and American imperium. Americans are tired of this form of economic integration we're told is so good for us but actually produces massive wealth inequality here and around the world. We're tired of having to be the world police all the time. I don't think Trump is the man to fix those things(he might make some of them worse) but Hillary certainly wasn't going to fix them and the victory of Trump signals that the American people are ready for a paradigm shift.

Now that the election is over and I've taken a day to bask in victory I don't plan to hold grudges with Hillary voters. I said my piece and served up some crow. But now it's like I said we are all still Americans and are all in this together. There really are some scared and hurt people in this country who ate up all the fear mongering that Hillary and the media fed them. I hope Trump and others don't just dismiss that. We don't want different racial, sexual, and religious groups feeling like the country has rejected them by voting Trump. Those kind of wounds last generations and I'm actually pretty worried about that tbh.
 
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What a fucking retard. Who does he think has been the main architects and beneficiaries of globalization? The European empires and America's expansionism. And I can tell you the folks who did the work on it were hardly globalizing for the benefit of POC. When neoliberal globalization engulfed the developing countries and lead to the immiseration of millions, as it did in the Arab world, leftists rightly call it out as the global north exploiting the global south. But when a war hawk dressed up as a progressive advocates for it against a big, meany Republican suddenly its great.

If anything Trump's victory is a signal to the rest of the world; sorry about those wars and stuff, we're tired of fucking with the world and we just want to focus on ourselves right now. I don' agree with many of Trump's domestic policies but really, is that such a bad thing.
 
Morning After To-Do List:

1. Take over the Democratic Party and return it to the people. They have failed us miserably.

2. Fire all pundits, predictors, pollsters and anyone else in the media who had a narrative they wouldn't let go of and refused to listen to or acknowledge what was really going on. Those same bloviators will now tell us we must "heal the divide" and “come together.” They will pull more hooey like that out of their ass in the days to come. Turn them off.

3. Any Democratic member of Congress who didn’t wake up this morning ready to fight, resist and obstruct in the way Republicans did against President Obama every day for eight full years must step out of the way and let those of us who know the score lead the way in stopping the meanness and the madness that's about to begin.

4. Everyone must stop saying they are “stunned” and “shocked.” What you mean to say is that you were in a bubble and weren’t paying attention to your fellow Americans and their despair. YEARS of being neglected by both parties, the anger and the need for revenge against the system only grew. Along came a TV star they liked whose plan was to destroy both parties and tell them all “You're fired!” Trump’s victory is no surprise. He was never a joke. Treating him as one only strengthened him. He is both a creature and a creation of the media and the media will never own that.

5. You must say this sentence to everyone you meet today: “HILLARY CLINTON WON THE POPULAR VOTE!” The MAJORITY of our fellow Americans preferred Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. Period. Fact. If you woke up this morning thinking you live in an effed-up country, you don’t. The majority of your fellow Americans wanted Hillary, not Trump. The only reason he’s president is because of an arcane, insane 18th-century idea called the Electoral College. Until we change that, we’ll continue to have presidents we didn’t elect and didn’t want. You live in a country where a majority of its citizens have said they believe there’s climate change, they believe women should be paid the same as men, they want a debt-free college education, they don’t want us invading countries, they want a raise in the minimum wage and they want a single-payer true universal health care system. None of that has changed. We live in a country where the majority agree with the “liberal” position. We just lack the liberal leadership to make that happen (see: #1 above). Let's try to get this all done by noon today. -- Michael Moore
 
Still licking the salt from the liberal base. This is exactly the same as the right was when Obama got elected. Just replace socialist with fascist. Elected because he's black with because he was white. Conservative buzz words with liberal buzz words. Questioning the intelligence of those who voted. Large protests.

Let's just hope Trump doesn't forget the working middle class like Obama did.
He won't because he needs them. Obama is really the candidate for do nothing lower class bums.
 
What a fucking retard. Who does he think has been the main architects and beneficiaries of globalization? The European empires and America's expansionism. And I can tell you the folks who did the work on it were hardly globalizing for the benefit of POC. When neoliberal globalization engulfed the developing countries and lead to the immiseration of millions, as it did in the Arab world, leftists rightly call it out as the global north exploiting the global south. But when a war hawk dressed up as a progressive advocates for it against a big, meany Republican suddenly its great.

If anything Trump's victory is a signal to the rest of the world; sorry about those wars and stuff, we're tired of fucking with the world and we just want to focus on ourselves right now. I don' agree with many of Trump's domestic policies but really, is that such a bad thing.
This is one of the things that pushed me away from the left - instead of disagreeing with their opponents and trying to explain things in a rational way, they instead use labels (like racist or sexist) to stigmatize any dissenters so they don't have to defend things at a rational level.

To be fair it's not like the right tries hard to defend things at a rational level and both sides need to work on it, but at least if you disagree with the right you won't be called labels like racist that are very, very hard to wash off.

I've already had friends equate nationalism with racism, xenophobia, and white supremacy. They don't care if it makes sense (it doesn't), they are simply regurgitating SJW bullshit and don't realize how they are being useful idiots for people with ulterior motives.
 
Someone please post that Vince McMahon reaction gif of the electorial map.
 
What a fucking retard. Who does he think has been the main architects and beneficiaries of globalization? The European empires and America's expansionism. And I can tell you the folks who did the work on it were hardly globalizing for the benefit of POC. When neoliberal globalization engulfed the developing countries and lead to the immiseration of millions, as it did in the Arab world, leftists rightly call it out as the global north exploiting the global south. But when a war hawk dressed up as a progressive advocates for it against a big, meany Republican suddenly its great.

If anything Trump's victory is a signal to the rest of the world; sorry about those wars and stuff, we're tired of fucking with the world and we just want to focus on ourselves right now. I don' agree with many of Trump's domestic policies but really, is that such a bad thing.


I know...it's remarkable how quickly and easily libs flipped on globalization. As recent as 3-4 years ago it was called as it was by the left..then the left elites out of nowhere started beating the globalization drum and now it's a big dream..It's as if they only do as they're told...
 
Hilary had a plurality, not a majority...

Or am i missing something, or is michael moore forgetting johnson and stein and writeins....
 
I suspect you ain't as smart as you want to believe you are.

So many of the states electoral votes were taken by the slightest margins. Shenanigans made a difference, as did lame-o hipsters voting for fringe weed candidates.

I never made a claim to be smart, but I can see you are mentally challenged as regards our system of government and elections, so again, I'm done. You should educate yourself, though. Knowledge is power. Have a nice evening.
 
Guess his race. Easy to make money sitting on your ass collecting welfare. Hourly wage was probably through the roof considering.

Sounds like you're admitting more than you want to here. People who don't make much $$$ (yourself) shouldn't be allowed to vote TBH. Let people who make far more (myself, etc) make decisions.

Trump will be an all time great President. This was a great win.
 
At least 7 different cities with anti-Trump protests.

If lefties hate the democratic process so much, then they should move to a place like North Korea where they won't have to be bothered with pesky things like democratic elections. As an added bonus to living in North Korea, the feminists won't have to deal with that horrible Due Process they hate so much.
 
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