Crime 2 Escaped American XL Bulldogs kill 22 pregnant ewes and maul 46 before being shot dead in Wales

Yeah, I don't want to play your weird goofy impromptu game.
If you have a pure bred registered dog just post the papers son.
You're done cause you don't.
Hell just post a picture of your dog. I might would play then.

Nope.

I guess you'll just have to never know.

And just think... all that rage because you reacted to a statement as innocuous as "Someone is deciding what does and what does not constitute a breed, and they're [the list is] changing constantly. The United Kennel Club (US) is one of only a few to even recognise the American XL Bully as a breed, for example."

Which you then went on to verify as a true statement.
 
Nope.

I guess you'll just have to never know.

And just think... all that rage because you reacted to a statement as innocuous as "Someone is deciding what does and what does not constitute a breed, and they're [the list is] changing constantly. The United Kennel Club (US) is one of only a few to even recognise the American XL Bully as a breed, for example."

Which you then went on to verify as a true statement.
Still doesn't get it. It only changes constantly if you conflate multiple sources and site the less credible one.

The UKC doesn't set the standard or list for the knowledgeable or those with actual standards.
This is like calling MMA a barbaric sport but siting the rules for BKC.

Or a fair statement for you could be "i dont know what should be the source of truth for established dog breeds."
 
Still doesn't get it. It only changes constantly if you conflate multiple sources and site the less credible one.

The UKC doesn't set the standard or list for the knowledgeable or those with actual standards.
This is like calling MMA a barbaric sport but siting the rules for BKC.

Or a fair statement for you could be "i dont know what should be the source of truth for established dog breeds."

I'm not shitting on the AKC.

I shared the list of AKC breeds as they're added per year.

https://www.akc.org/press-center/ar...registers 200,became registrable with the AKC.

I only shared this to prove that the list of recognised breeds changes constantly.

There were 3 added in 2022, for example.

I didn't say it was necessarily 'easy' or expeditious to have a breed recognised, I said it changes a lot, and will change again. It's not concrete or final, and never will be - the implication being that what is not recognised today might be recognised in 10-20 years, or in far less time than that, so to take a 'snapshot' of the breeds today and act like 'that's that' isn't the be all and end all - even if it's as good as we've got right now.

What did you think I was trying to say that angered you so bad?
 
If you need a hug find your mommy
No, just continue to call out fake know it alls with words. I guess also trigger sensitive garbage posters too.
With this post, you forfeit the right to ever correct someone’s grammar again.
 
I'm not shitting on the AKC.

I shared the list of AKC breeds as they're added per year.

https://www.akc.org/press-center/articles-resources/facts-and-stats/breeds-year-recognized/#:~:text=The AKC currently registers 200,became registrable with the AKC.

I only shared this to prove that the list of recognised breeds changes constantly.

There were 3 added in 2022, for example.

I didn't say it was necessarily 'easy' or expeditious to have a breed recognised, I said it changes a lot, and will change again. It's not concrete or final, and never will be - the implication being that what is not recognised today might be recognised in 10-20 years, or in far less time than that, so to take a 'snapshot' of the breeds today and act like 'that's that' isn't the be all and end all - even if it's as good as we've got right now.

What did you think I was trying to say that angered you so bad?
Honestly dude you still are reaching with the list comment. Or missing the point of the AKC. Its a bit disingenuous to keep saying the list changes constantly.... I'm not trying to be mean. Just trying to be direct and simplify a complicated process.....

I kind of get what you're saying though on the surface level.

However, I feel if you really read how the process worked you would understand its not them changing or instantly adding a breed.

At the end of the day its just back and forth banter. I'm not mad over people I don't know talking trash on the internet about things they don't know.

Here is my take on it (Again):
The list only grows due to there being a world wide backlog of Pure Bred dogs that the AKC has yet to do the appropriate process for admission.
These are already established breeds. Not only that they have gone through years of going through the AKC's FSS process & their rarity group process. While only completing 1 or 2 a year. So these are breeds they have been tracking to for years & anyone who follows the AKC knows what's in the pipeline and the next steps and dates.

So it's literally the opposite of it being "American-centric" like you accused them of. It's them saying they don't know everything under the sun & that there were real dog breeds prior to the AKC being a thing. They are just setting a standard for stuff that was already out there. Or for more modern breeds, a standard that shouldn't allow dogs like the XL Bullies to gain acceptance.

There is a giant difference in accepting American XL Bullies in a registry or club versus an already established pure bred dog and proper working dog such as the Dogo Argentina ( recently added to AKC even though this has been a legit breed for decades.

To your point of "if not recognized today but maybe 20 years later."
The AKC has specific rules that forbid modern crosses of already recognized breeds to create a new "breed." This was specifically in the link I sent you.
If any of that changes they will lose their high ground.
I guess a dog breed is more than just crossing dogs for a look in most reputable registries standards.
 
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Dorks need to go back to the boxing forum.
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Pro tip. I know it's bad form to deduce an argument down to grammar or semantics.
However, I refuse to let low I.Q. idiots who are clearly ignorant on dogs turn their pretentious pig noses up at any of us responsible dog owners.

Get off your high horse and learn the difference between your & you're..... Then maybe you can attempt to lecture somebody.

An owner of what? Try to read the thread and keep up. My credentials are stated.
This is a karate forum. Picking on a slight grammer problem as your response is the best way to tell people how hurt you are

I mean you are so triggered in this thread it's delicious. You didn't even answer my question because you're too busy crying while your 230 lb genetic freak of a dog is probably ripping some kids arm off in your back yard
 
This is a karate forum. Picking on a slight grammer problem as your response is the best way to tell people how hurt you are

I mean you are so triggered in this thread it's delicious. You didn't even answer my question because you're too busy crying while your 230 lb genetic freak of a dog is probably ripping some kids arm off in your back yard
These dogs don't weigh any where near 230lbs. Stop your bitch'n & exaggerations.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Rhetorical...go away goof
 
Dogs vary. Just like people. Anybody who has owned multiple dogs can attest to this.
While breeds share a common standard that describe their appearance, and generic temperament. Each dog should be judged on it's own merit.
There is some overlap. There are some big differences.
Also, "behavior" is not the best choice of words for describing an alleged systemic issue with a specific dog breed. Behavior can easily be modified on most dogs of every breed. Which is why you have professional dog trainers. Or great owners/handlers that know what they are doing.

So what are the differences between the breeds? are they significant enough that they should be classified differently?

The owner shouldn't even be in the discussion tbh since we can't quantify that nor judge a person's ability to train a dog.
 
These dogs don't weigh any where near 230lbs. Stop your bitch'n & exaggerations.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Rhetorical...go away goof
Lmao, of course it was an exaggeration. But they're big, muscular and built to kill. Their bone density is some of the most dense out of any dog. Their head is genetically bred to be shaped in a manner that allows them to clinch and hold and then rip. This allows them to break the necks of most other dogs. Or children, which ever they get to first.

You have no clue what you're talking about. Everything you are referencing here is a farce made by the same people who blindly try to defend these demons.
 
So what are the differences between the breeds? are they significant enough that they should be classified differently?

The owner shouldn't even be in the discussion tbh since we can't quantify that nor judge a person's ability to train a dog.
Google can help you with that if you genuinely want to know.
You 100% can do both of those things.
Most reputable breeders of working dogs do both of those things before they send a perspective client the puppy contract.
Many people will not sell dogs to inexperienced owners or handlers.
Does this always happen???? No
Is it common practice for good breeders????Yes
 
Dafuq’s an American XL Bulldog ?
I thought you guys meant a regular old school American Bulldog and was just about to grab my 12 gauge and go Liam Neeson on some Welsh sonofabitches.

But I’ll give this a pass. Must’ve been a sad day to be a Welshman and see so many prime “ladies of the night” meet their end.
 
Lmao, of course it was an exaggeration. But they're big, muscular and built to kill. Their bone density is some of the most dense out of any dog. Their head is genetically bred to be shaped in a manner that allows them to clinch and hold and then rip. This allows them to break the necks of most other dogs. Or children, which ever they get to first.

You have no clue what you're talking about. Everything you are referencing here is a farce made by the same people who blindly try to defend these demons.
This is some of the worst bro science I've read on here. Congrats, Saku-san.
 
Lmao, of course it was an exaggeration. But they're big, muscular and built to kill. Their bone density is some of the most dense out of any dog. Their head is genetically bred to be shaped in a manner that allows them to clinch and hold and then rip. This allows them to break the necks of most other dogs. Or children, which ever they get to first.

You have no clue what you're talking about. Everything you are referencing here is a farce made by the same people who blindly try to defend these demons.
You are speaking a lot of folklore. Or what people in the know call breed mythology.
Also, missing the mark with the true danger of a Pitbull. Stop talking out of your ass. You sound like a 5 year old.
Hope you have pitbull nightmares tonight lol.
Sweet dreams. Ruff Ruff.
 
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