12 Untrained Strongmen vs a Silverback Gorilla. Which side wins?

I don't know how else to say it. Humans are smarter than gorillas therefore they can try to out smart the gorilla where as the gorilla may not even know why he is even in a cage with 12 humans.
 
Predatory animals may not have a high linguistic or abstract mathematical IQ but their fight IQ is legendary.
 
I don't know how else to say it. Humans are smarter than gorillas therefore they can try to out smart the gorilla where as the gorilla may not even know why he is even in a cage with 12 humans.
Math? Is this math??
 
Hang on! I'm still trying to do my calculations. One octagon. Plus 12 gorillas. No! One gorilla. So stupid, why am I so stupid . . . . .?
 
Most humans, especially grown men know how to grab someone, hold them down or throw some basic punches and stomps. They don't have to be training with Greg Jackson to know how to fight. Untrained people have been fucking people up in fights since the beginning of time.

i've seen two groups of untrained people fucking each other up outside a bar, a few untrained people fucking each other up at a party, and a few untrained people fucking each other up at a concert...a few of them looked very strong even, like they could lift heavy things. i know of these untrained people fucking each other up that you speak of. so please rest assured that you can believe me when i tell you:
i highly doubt that any of the maneuvers i saw those untrained people using to fuck each other up would work very well against a gorilla. in truth, they weren't working all that well against the people.

i could be wrong, but im pretty sure im not.
 
Hang on! I'm still trying to do my calculations. One octagon. Plus 12 gorillas. No! One gorilla. So stupid, why am I so stupid . . . . .?

Whoa, take it easy man. It's not like there's 12 of you to figure this out
 
Why did you stipulate the "untrained" condition on the strongmen? Did you think it would be unfair for the Gorilla if they were trained?

Do you think if they were trained they would go for a gogoplata or a toe hold after softening up the Gorilla with some nice double jabs and crosses?
 
Can you show me any example eva of a gorilla removing the limbs of anything? Gorilla's are vegan wusses. Super strong vegan wusses who'll get their eyes gouged out by the strongmen.

Gorilla's are known to be killed by 130lb leopards in the wild.

I dont think you understand the situation here. These strongmen arent fighting "a gorilla". They are fighting a SILVERBACK. Leopards have been known to kill runt males and female gorillas, maybe even a senile silverback. But they are no match for a dominant alpha gorilla in his prime.

Much like the male leader of a lion pride, the ruling silverback has to be a capable fighter because their primary job is fending off other males trying to steal their belt. Rest assured that whenever you see a silverback defending his harem, he is an accomplished veteran who has fought and beaten the very best the jungle had to offer.

You dare call gorillas vegan pussies? When was the last time humans fought to the death just because its the only way to secure a mate for breeding? This is the reality of gorilla society, my friend. Only the biggest and strongest have access to dat dere girlilla poonanny.

Those 12 "strongmen" have the luxury of mimmicking hard labor because our soft society affords them the privilige. The gorilla's life is one of violent savagery with death at every corner.
 
I dont think you understand the situation here. These strongmen arent fighting "a gorilla". They are fighting a SILVERBACK. Leopards have been known to kill runt males and female gorillas, maybe even a senile silverback. But they are no match for a dominant alpha gorilla in his prime.

Much like the male leader of a lion pride, the ruling silverback has to be a capable fighter because their primary job is fending off other males trying to steal their belt. Rest assured that whenever you see a silverback defending his harem, he is an accomplished veteran who has fought and beaten the very best the jungle had to offer.

You dare call gorillas vegan pussies? When was the last time humans fought to the death just because its the only way to secure a mate for breeding? This is the reality of gorilla society, my friend. Only the biggest and strongest have access to dat dere girlilla poonanny.

Those 12 "strongmen" have the luxury of mimmicking hard labor because our soft society affords them the privilige. The gorilla's life is one of violent savagery with death at every corner.

i've read this like 5 times, and i've laughed every time. your av doesn't hurt either.

im seeing a lot of win in this one. this is a solid 8.5, or i'll eat my shoes.
 
I think you get my point. Humans are a lot smarter than a gorilla. The humans have an ability to at least game plan where as the gorilla just goes (for a lacknof a better term) ape shit and starts running around.

Besides, no matter how smart you are, how much of a game plan can you have when you are alone against 12 opponents in a confined space?
 
Okay, okay. TS, change it to '12 Carl Sagans vs Silverback'



Maybe just 4 Sagans to make it more fair
 
Can you show me any example eva of a gorilla removing the limbs of anything? Gorilla's are vegan wusses. Super strong vegan wusses who'll get their eyes gouged out by the strongmen.

Gorilla's are known to be killed by 130lb leopards in the wild.

Silverbacks aren't killed by leopards. Though leopards are absolute badasses themselves. Imagine a house cat but scaled up ridiculously. They can cover the length of the octagon with a single leap. I've been charged by a leopard at a zoo. It covered the 50 yards before I could even react (luckily there was a chain link fence which saved my life). You can't fight a leopard unarmed because it moves so much faster than a human. (obviously people have done it but leopards are one of the only animals to hunt humans and become man eaters).

A gorrilla holds it's huge weight hanging from one hand. There's monkey bars in my gym and the average gym goer is too weak to even use it. The difference between strength (and thus, by necessity, toughness) between a silverback and a strongman is too great for only 12 guys.

One lion took out an entire midget fighting league. A midget isn't a powerlifter but there was like 40+ of them and they couldn't do shit to a lion.

The Romans gave nets and tridents to people they made fight animals.
If they wanted you to be killed (or raped by giraffe) they sent you in unarmed.
 
One Sagan lecture, let alone the man himself, is enough to fell even the most violent of beasts.

Billions and billions and billions and billions....
 
Well going by recent events, one of the strongman can curl up and act weak and vulnerable like a child to distract the gorilla while the other 11 perform atomic butt drops on said gorilla from behind.
 
Why did you stipulate the "untrained" condition on the strongmen? Did you think it would be unfair for the Gorilla if they were trained?

Do you think if they were trained they would go for a gogoplata or a toe hold after softening up the Gorilla with some nice double jabs and crosses?

literally had me laughing out loud- the double jabs and crosses especially.

You think Jackson/Wink could devise a gameplan to beat the gorilla?
 
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