“Women don’t like guys that are too jacked” —— myth busted, Dude!

[Fury]

I'll tell you what has worked for me and almost everyone I know that has been relatively successful as an adult with women.... Being decently in shape (not ripped), being enjoyable to talk to and not being poor.

 

[Slobodan]

I'll tell you what has worked for me and almost everyone I know that has been relatively successful as an adult with women.... Being decently in shape (not ripped), being enjoyable to talk to and not being poor.

Well that eliminates 90% of Sherdog, damn.

Sorry @lsa, you're too poor and are not enjoyable to talk to but at least you're in shape (you're not ripped tho).

 

[cmw43]

Dude, if you're 5'6 and 200lb lean... you look freakish and like you're desperately overcompensating for something.

Getting that Palhares physique.

 

[Contempt]

Getting that Palhares physique.

Natty GOAT.

 

[Cole train]

I will give you two extremes - One photo, I am 216lbs and shredded to the bone. The other is at 293lbs, and juiced to the gills.

Neither extreme girls liked - people found me most conventionally attractive when I was 230lbs. I was lean, but no excessive vascularity/striations. I just looked healthier.


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Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.

 

[LEWIS540]

you know what? I’m not even gonna have a dumb argument

Do you really think I would fuck a wild animal? Cause that’s hilarious

You seem like the type who wouldn't fuck an animal, but make love to it.

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

Dude, if you're 5'6 and 200lb lean... you look freakish and like you're desperately overcompensating for something.

No, not at all. Not 6 pack lean. But that’s the whole point. Those little 150 pound manlets are not the same. But women like them too. I dunno.. it seems like the height thing is less important these days. I see a lot more women with short guys then I used to

Skinny short dudes too. So maybe I’m just being a dick

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

Bmbleh these articles or studies or whatever they are always miss the point. Women like asthetic looks. It‘s all about proportions. They all will get wet about Jason Momoa because he has the frame and long arms for it. He als looks natural. Like some kind of tarzan.

Now put the same mass on some of these roided up mini T-rex dudes we see on YT and most women find that ugly.

And IDK who came up with the idea that looking strong alone = attractive. Most of these weightlifters are unattractive, as are strongmen. A guy like Abdulrashid Sadulaev is very impressive but his body is hideous.

True. And most short dudes have the stubby look, I guess

I have a 5’ 11 reach (at 5’ 6) so I can pull it off

I still would rather be stubby then weak..

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

True. And most short dudes have the stubby look, I guess

I have a 5’ 11 reach (at 5’ 6) so I can pull it off

I still would rather be stubby then weak..

Well whatever floats your boat but if pulling chicks is important for you then i think you would be much better off with less mass. Also try to do neck exercises. There is an optical imbalance between all your muscles and your neck

 

[method115]

I'll tell you what has worked for me and almost everyone I know that has been relatively successful as an adult with women.... Being decently in shape (not ripped), being enjoyable to talk to and not being poor.

My cousin had the first two and lived with his mom, no job, and still got laid easily.

 

[Fury]

My cousin had the first two and lived with his mom, no job, and still got laid easily.

Yeah, you'll get laid without the job. Probably less likely to get them for the long term.

 

[method115]

Yeah, you'll get laid without the job. Probably less likely to get them for the long term.

Yea he never had anything going long term until after he got a job.

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

Well whatever floats your boat but if pulling chicks is important for you then i think you would be much better off with less mass. Also try to do neck exercises. There is an optical imbalance between all your muscles and your neck

maybe. I know I don’t want to hit traps.

If I’m confident in anything.. the enhanced traps look is fucking stupid.

Based on what women have told me.. and also just seeing pictures of like John Cena.. bros back is stretched over his shoulders like 8 inches above them



If I start boxing I’ll hit neck. That would be fun..

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

Absolutely.

When I was 216lbs, I was using Clenbuterol, T3 and high doses of EQ/low dose Testosterone. My nose was bleeding every day, I would sleep less than 5 hours per night, and I was extremely weak (relatively speaking).

At 293lbs, day to day life was actually really difficult. I was winded walking up stairs and sweat profusely. I would also get horrible calf and lower back pumps just from moving around.

At 230lbs, I felt significantly better. My quality of life improved significantly, but I was so insecure about "not being big" or "not being ripped" that I rarely stayed at that weight for an extended period. From the ages of 23 to 38, I was constantly bulking and cutting and on a significant amount of steroids. I'm 41 now and injuries have caught up with me - I am currently in the process of cutting to 200lbs to take strain off of my lower back and joints.

Did you have kids? If so what was that protocol like?

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

Also an important point is you won't get too big without steroids. It is simply not possible unless you have Ronnie Coleman genetics (you don't).
The key factor here seems to be that ladies like men who have something else about their personality (charisma, interests, money, etc) apart from going to the gym. If you only talk about bulks, cuts and PRs, you better look like prime Zyzz, or you're screwed.

That’s kinda my MO. I do stand up comedy and I’m good at that.. i make fun of myself.. don’t talk about the gym or whatever

 

[Brampton_Boy]

Did you have kids? If so what was that protocol like?

No kids, but I would cycle off and do a comprehensive PCT to get my sperm count back up (I would actually have it tested for count and motility). My protocol was:

On cycle (and this is key): HCG at 250iu twice per week. This prevents your testicles from atrophying and will make recovery significantly easier when you come off.

Post cycle: 60mg Toremifene ED for 6 weeks and 0.5mg Arimidex per week. I have also used Clomid and Nolvadex in previous protocols, but Toremifene is significantly more effective. You can also kick start a PCT by doing 5000iu of HCG in weeks 1 and 2.

 

[stalehotdog]

Well that eliminates 90% of Sherdog, damn.

Sorry @lsa, you're too poor and are not enjoyable to talk to but at least you're in shape (you're not ripped tho).

Who is the scholar in your avatar?

 

[Jack Reacheround]

There is no binary “Of you do this, women will fawn all over you.” Or “If you don’t do this, women won’t fuck you.”

I’m sure some guys with tons of bulk muscle are found to be unattractive by some women, and found to be attractive by others.

Just about the only one solid tenet is: Don’t show her your medieval weapons collection. Or: Don’t have a medieval weapons collection in the first place.

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

No kids, but I would cycle off and do a comprehensive PCT to get my sperm count back up (I would actually have it tested for count and motility). My protocol was:

On cycle (and this is key): HCG at 250iu twice per week. This prevents your testicles from atrophying and will make recovery significantly easier when you come off.

Post cycle: 60mg Toremifene ED for 6 weeks and 0.5mg Arimidex per week. I have also used Clomid and Nolvadex in previous protocols, but Toremifene is significantly more effective. You can also kick start a PCT by doing 5000iu of HCG in weeks 1 and 2.

Yeah I don’t want to cycle off. I just don’t know how to interpret the anecdotes gearheads will present as far as blasting tren and getting their girl pregnant with twins

Like.. is that gonna affect the baby?

Something that personally ima check with a clinic and really do some research beforehand. I don’t want to cycle off

 

[Brampton_Boy]

Yeah I don’t want to cycle off. I just don’t know how to interpret the anecdotes gearheads will present as far as blasting tren and getting their girl pregnant with twins

Like.. is that gonna affect the baby?

Something that personally ima check with a clinic and really do some research beforehand. I don’t want to cycle off

Short answer is that there is no empirical evidence to suggest that anabolic steroid use would effect the health of the fetus. It will impact the health of your sperm (quantity and motility), which will make it significantly more difficult to get pregnant. However, if you are able to fertilize an egg and have your partner carry it full term, then there would be no adverse health impacts for the baby.

Anecdotally, I have known a lot of guys who have had babies while on cycle, however, most of those guys were not running 19 nor steroids (deca and tren). Those tend to be much more suppressive and will drive LHT/FSH levels to zero.

If you don't want to cycle off, but you are interested in having kids, start using HCG (if you aren't already). It will prevent HPTA shutdown and your testicles from atrophying. If you are actively trying to conceive, ramp up HCG use to 5000iu per week. You may also want to explore using Triptorelin, but you have to be really careful with how you dose that.