“Women don’t like guys that are too jacked” —— myth busted, Dude!

I will give you two extremes - One photo, I am 216lbs and shredded to the bone. The other is at 293lbs, and juiced to the gills.

Neither extreme girls liked - people found me most conventionally attractive when I was 230lbs. I was lean, but no excessive vascularity/striations. I just looked healthier.

BroScienceTalkatWork said:
whatever man.. I’m bulking right now, I’m not trying to hear it. Nice work though
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BroScienceTalkatWork said:
Well “tall” and “short “

You’d have to pair that with the strongest physique (short guy) and thinnest physique on the chart

We can argue day about that but it’s pedantic

I kinda fundamentally disagree with your thesis. I think if you’re 5’ 10 160, average face.. it’d be really really hard to leverage that in the dating world


There’s nothing exciting about you

I’d much rather be 6’ 5 and ugly, or 5’ 7 and handsome then just average all around

Average height ugly and jacked.. you can absolutely find ways to sell that
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6’5 is way above average. That’s 8 inches above average. Why are you using 5’7” that’s only 2 inches below average male height. Going by your figure for tall and ugly. I highly doubt you’d want to be 5’1 and handsome.
 
Brampton_Boy said:
I will give you two extremes - One photo, I am 216lbs and shredded to the bone. The other is at 293lbs, and juiced to the gills.

Neither extreme girls liked - people found me most conventionally attractive when I was 230lbs. I was lean, but no excessive vascularity/striations. I just looked healthier.


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Did you “feel” better at 230? Your face is unrecognizable during your bulk. You look like a completely different person in both photos! Wow
 
stalehotdog said:
Did you “feel” better at 230? Your face is unrecognizable during your bulk. You look like a completely different person in both photos! Wow
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Absolutely.

When I was 216lbs, I was using Clenbuterol, T3 and high doses of EQ/low dose Testosterone. My nose was bleeding every day, I would sleep less than 5 hours per night, and I was extremely weak (relatively speaking).

At 293lbs, day to day life was actually really difficult. I was winded walking up stairs and sweat profusely. I would also get horrible calf and lower back pumps just from moving around.

At 230lbs, I felt significantly better. My quality of life improved significantly, but I was so insecure about "not being big" or "not being ripped" that I rarely stayed at that weight for an extended period. From the ages of 23 to 38, I was constantly bulking and cutting and on a significant amount of steroids. I'm 41 now and injuries have caught up with me - I am currently in the process of cutting to 200lbs to take strain off of my lower back and joints.
 
Brampton_Boy said:
Absolutely.

When I was 216lbs, I was using Clenbuterol, T3 and high doses of EQ/low dose Testosterone. My nose was bleeding every day, I would sleep less than 5 hours per night, and I was extremely weak (relatively speaking).

At 293lbs, day to day life was actually really difficult. I was winded walking up stairs and sweat profusely. I would also get horrible calf and lower back pumps just from moving around.

At 230lbs, I felt significantly better. My quality of life improved significantly, but I was so insecure about "not being big" or "not being ripped" that I rarely stayed at that weight for an extended period. From the ages of 23 to 38, I was constantly bulking and cutting and on a significant amount of steroids. I'm 41 now and injuries have caught up with me - I am currently in the process of cutting to 200lbs to take strain off of my lower back and joints.
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I hope you’re not using Clen to cut down to 200 again. That sounds like a nightmare nose bleeds everyday and only being able to sleep 5 hours per night. Please be safe man.
 
stalehotdog said:
I hope you’re not using Clen to cut down to 200 again. That sounds like a nightmare nose bleeds everyday and only being able to sleep 5 hours per night. Please be safe man.
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No clen/T3. I am on HRT (200mgs of Testosterone weekly) and have had to let go of a significant amount of muscle mass, as I can no longer lift the way that I used to. I just hope to be a healthy 200lbs and age (somewhat) gracefully :)
 
Brampton_Boy said:
No clen/T3. I am on HRT (200mgs of Testosterone weekly) and have had to let go of a significant amount of muscle mass, as I can no longer lift the way that I used to. I just hope to be a healthy 200lbs and age (somewhat) gracefully :)
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Also, while it is very obvious you have/had body dysmorphia. From what I’ve gathered in your posts you’re intelligent and you’re a bright guy. You had to have known intellectually you weren’t physically a small guy right?
 
No one said nothing about handsome.
stalehotdog said:
6’5 is way above average. That’s 8 inches above average. Why are you using 5’7” that’s only 2 inches below average male height. Going by your figure for tall and ugly. I highly doubt you’d want to be 5’1 and handsome.
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we’re talking about physique. and actually looking bigger then someone who’s taller

for example if I’m with homie who’s 180 pounds at 6 foot.. I’m 5’6 200 pounds lean… I actually look bigger. And they might get jealous or whatever because i get a lot more attention from women
 
BroScienceTalkatWork said:
No one said nothing about handsome.

we’re talking about physique. and actually looking bigger then someone who’s taller

for example if I’m with homie who’s 180 pounds at 6 foot.. I’m 5’6 200 pounds lean… I actually look bigger. And they might get jealous or whatever because i get a lot more attention from women
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I literally quoted you saying you’d rather be 6’5 and ugly or 5’7” and handsome
 
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BroScienceTalkatWork said:
No one said nothing about handsome.

we’re talking about physique. and actually looking bigger then someone who’s taller

for example if I’m with homie who’s 180 pounds at 6 foot.. I’m 5’6 200 pounds lean… I actually look bigger. And they might get jealous or whatever because i get a lot more attention from women
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Dude, if you're 5'6 and 200lb lean... you look freakish and like you're desperately overcompensating for something.
 
My name is Jack 'Jackie' Jackson and I jack off daily and I've got 4 jacks in my car. I believe that makes me way too jacked.
 
Bmbleh these articles or studies or whatever they are always miss the point. Women like asthetic looks. It‘s all about proportions. They all will get wet about Jason Momoa because he has the frame and long arms for it. He als looks natural. Like some kind of tarzan.

Now put the same mass on some of these roided up mini T-rex dudes we see on YT and most women find that ugly.

And IDK who came up with the idea that looking strong alone = attractive. Most of these weightlifters are unattractive, as are strongmen. A guy like Abdulrashid Sadulaev is very impressive but his body is hideous.
 
BroScienceTalkatWork said:
If you read that in the voice of the Spike TV guy, then props… cause that’s what I intended

Evidence






It even beat beat out height —- which I didnt expect

Moral of the story — just get BIG. Be as strong as possible. You will not get too jacked. Even on steroids
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Men like muscles too

Both gay men and gym bros.
 
Also an important point is you won't get too big without steroids. It is simply not possible unless you have Ronnie Coleman genetics (you don't).
The key factor here seems to be that ladies like men who have something else about their personality (charisma, interests, money, etc) apart from going to the gym. If you only talk about bulks, cuts and PRs, you better look like prime Zyzz, or you're screwed.
 
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