Media “Jon Jones would’ve beaten Francis Ngannou” ~ Anthony Smith

Who would win if they were scheduled to fight next year?

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Jon Jones can't submit a specimin, let alone this prime Silverback.
 
lol best wins where blaydes,Rozenstruik struggled with gane

thats his best wins
dude in his prime was scared of blackbeast and got manhandled by stipe

all his best kos came from 10-15 years past prime 40 yr old fighters like jds,cain overeem
i dont know why his power is overated
 
Travis Alexander said:
Jones is the GOAT who has never lost a fight against anyone and has dominated the sport for a decade and a half. He has destroyed some of the other all time greats at a myriad of disciplines. It’s not really a surprise that most pros would pick jones (as they should). He literally has zero weaknesses in his game…let that sink in for a moment. Don’t get me wrong he has certain attributes that exceed others but what weaknesses does jones have in the cage come fight night?
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His boxing is pretty shite - and he has never been put in there with a modern "decent" boxer aside from Reyes, but his is more reliant on counter shots.

Aspinall and Ngannou - and to a lesser extent Pavlovich would all be interesting.
 
Keep telling yourself that Anthony, after you lost the opportunity for a title belt in the Jon fight.

Alex is your only hope for another title fight, problem is that you trolling Alex on his accomplishments turns you into chicken heart.
 
Maybe Jon would have had a chance when he was allowed to skewer eyeballs. Closed fisted Jon gets put to sleep. Look at Reyes / Santos fights
 
Jon wouldnt be able to takedown Ngannou, theres a big strength discrepancy and its not like Jon is HW Khamzat, he struggled to takedown Reyes and Thiago Santos.
 
That's why Jones moved to HW as soon as Francis was no longer around. That's why he didn't fight Francis when he had the chance. Because he was so confident he would win.
 
I'd lean Jon but it would be a very good fight. I'd say for me it's like 55-45 Jon just because he has more skills, but that doesn't mean shit if he can't implement anything and Frank lands his power.
 
Jones is one of the best fighters in the history of mma at utilizing the kicking range / his length to control the range and mitigate damage.

All time, he's the hardest fighter in mma to hit cleanly over a 10+ year frame of reference.

We seen what Gane was able to do, effectively neutralize Ngannous boxing by coming with a mixed game.

Jones could do the same, with better defense, while also having a strong threat of the takedown.

People can think what they want, but that was never a good style matchup for frank.

You'd be betting on a punchers chance against one of the hardest fighters to actually hit in mma history.

And there's no indication his wrestling has improved enough to neutralize a wrestling/ grappling threat on Jon's level.

Like his trainer said, if Ngannou took the 8 mil and lost against the GOAT, there's no protection. He would've lost all leverage and potential for his career.

And ultimately he wasn't willing to take that chance.

Unlike many fans, they knew how big of a threat that matchup was.

At the end of the day, he made the right call for his career. Likely extending it by a few years because he opted for boxing instead.
 
Well Jones didn't seem to think so himself.
 
AstralPanda said:
Jones is one of the best fighters in the history of mma at utilizing the kicking range / his length to control the range and mitigate damage.

All time, he's the hardest fighter in mma to hit cleanly over a 10+ year frame of reference.

We seen what Gane was able to do, effectively neutralize Ngannous boxing by coming with a mixed game.

Jones could do the same, with better defense, while also having a strong threat of the takedown.

People can think what they want, but that was never a good style matchup for frank.

You'd be betting on a punchers chance against one of the hardest fighters to actually hit in mma history.

And there's no indication his wrestling has improved enough to neutralize a wrestling/ grappling threat on Jon's level.

Like his trainer said, if Ngannou took the 8 mil and lost against the GOAT, there's no protection. He would've lost all leverage and potential for his career.

And ultimately he wasn't willing to take that chance.

Unlike many fans, they knew how big of a threat that matchup was.

At the end of the day, he made the right call for his career. Likely extending it by a few years because he opted for boxing instead.
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Eyepoke Jon was a different animal
 
TommyGunz said:
He got KTFO but I don’t think that happens to jones. Jones is better at grappling than Stipe imo.
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Yeah Jones is a decent grappler, but when’s the last time he won a fight like that? He struggled to take Reyes down and when he finally got one Reyes got right back up. I think Francis is much much stronger and a better grappler than Reyes. Even though Jon put some mass on I still think he’s physically weaker relative to the rest of the division than he was at LHW. I think Jon would get stalked by Francis in a fight and walked down. He has zero power in his punches too
 
AstralPanda said:
Jones is one of the best fighters in the history of mma at utilizing the kicking range / his length to control the range and mitigate damage.

All time, he's the hardest fighter in mma to hit cleanly over a 10+ year frame of reference.

We seen what Gane was able to do, effectively neutralize Ngannous boxing by coming with a mixed game.

Jones could do the same, with better defense, while also having a strong threat of the takedown.

People can think what they want, but that was never a good style matchup for frank.
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Come on...if Jones had wrecked his knee in camp he would 100% have pulled out of he Gane fight.
Gane who btw made every striker look clueles, only won clearly one round against badly injured Ngannou.

Now for the style matchup: Jones has shown vulnerable to dirty boxing exchanges against DC. Ngannou is great at that

He also would have struggled in wrestling, early and late, because Ngannou has the basic skills, raw strength and stamina. Entries would be dangerous, and failed TDs would get punished.

He would have struggled in striking because Ngannou has the longest reach he has ever faced, power, chin.

Realistically, Jones path to victory would be to emulate Gane's gameplan with long range push kicks for 5 rounds and avoid getting caught. Or be real sneaky with the TDs and keep Ngannou down (not easy).
 
spinup said:
Come on...if Jones had wrecked his knee in camp he would 100% have pulled out of he Gane fight.
Gane who btw made every striker look clueles, only won clearly one round against badly injured Ngannou.

Now for the style matchup: Jones has shown vulnerable to dirty boxing exchanges against DC. Ngannou is great at that

He also would have struggled in wrestling, early and late, because Ngannou has the basic skills, raw strength and stamina. Entries would be dangerous, and failed TDs would get punished.

He would have struggled in striking because Ngannou has the longest reach he has ever faced, power, chin.

Realistically, Jones path to victory would be to emulate Gane's gameplan with long range push kicks for 5 rounds and avoid getting caught. Or be real sneaky with the TDs and keep Ngannou down (not easy).
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What I see is pure bias embodied in a post
 
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