Why is it so tough to have public health care?

[Wally Brando]

Don't give me that bullshit. Only once in my life has a party held both chambers, a supermajority and the presidency. That was the Dems under Obama and they didn't pass UHC.

They passed a healthcare bill though. Something the repubs couldn't do.

 

[Jim Bob]

That is a complete lie.

You Should talk to her....She's worked at large hospitals in both the U.S. and Canada!

Because she had no money. She wouldn't be doing better in the USA.
You see, you can still pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in "socialist" countries for private healthcare.

She was dying no matter what, but in her situation, she could have gotten into hospice at least 3 months prior to her death in the U.S. This would have lead to a less painful end.

 

[Gunny]

They passed a healthcare bill though. Something the repubs couldn't do.

They passed another gift to cronyism that is now crumbling. It was nothing to be proud of. That was the best chance in a century for UHC and the Dems fucked the pooch. You can take all your partisan bull shit and shove it. Or be a genuine person and call out the assholes of both parties for their failures. I won't be holding my breath though.

 

[Rhood]

Health insurance brokers are like Car insurance brokers.
They try to squeeze every nickel & dime out of you, even if you have no claims.

Every type of insurance is a racket.

 

[Bloodworth]

What do you do with a good portion of the population that will never contribute one dime to health care or ever give one thought about their health.

They make up a large portion of the country and its the same with many tax based services today.
Only a few contributing and tons using.

In ny many Public schools, now have 5 kids in a classroom out of 25 that have parents who contribute to school tax.
bleeding heart liberals will ignor this gap and either get federal grants or ask the few who pay, to pay more.

Roads and bridges are used by many. But only a few contribute to its repair. Big tax gap.

The liberal mantra is this. They have a huge population that have no care about their health.
And when these people get old, it's too uncompassionate to deny them, but it's too expensive to care for them and they never contributed a dime.
So how can they make people healthier who don't care about their health.
Ding ding. Lower sugar and salt in the products they consume.
That might help save us money down the road.

 

[LMP]

For me it comes down to two choices
1. Government goes single payer everyone is covered, not as good of quality.

2. Government get out of health care and we have the best health, not everyone is covered

 

[NC252]

Well the freedom caucus wouldn't be happy until 36 million people didn't have healthcare so.....

Just because someone doesn't have health insurance doesn't mean they do not have access to healthcare. I think we can all agree that the insurance companies are the major problem with the health care in the United States. When the insurance companies make obscene profits and the doctors and hospitals make large profits it sticks the consumer in the arse. I'm a conservative but if Universal Health Care will get rid of the insurance companies and reign in the drug companies then let's do it

 

[Deleted member 502383]

Dear TS

Public health care sucks

Yours sincerely

A guy saving his money to leave his socialist country.

 

[NC252]

how much does it cost to have a baby in the us?

i've had two born in the hospital and it didn't cost anything

Around 20 to 25 k for a healthy baby with prenatal care included.

 

[emefer]

You Should talk to her....She's worked at large hospitals in both the U.S. and Canada!

She was dying no matter what, but in her situation, she could have gotten into hospice at least 3 months prior to her death in the U.S. This would have lead to a less painful end.

but it most likely would have been paid for by Medicare and Medicaid, you know, government funded healthcare.

 

[Prutfis]

Because of ignorant selfish assholes.

 

[Rob_M.]

how much does it cost to have a baby in the us?

i've had two born in the hospital and it didn't cost anything

Someone else answered this for you but I wanted to add something. 15 years ago when we had my daughter it didn't cost us anything because insurance companies were doing what they were supposed to do and that was pay the bill because we paid a premium. Over the years our healthcare system and government has pretty much made us rely on purchasing insurance in order to receive care. If you mention going to the doctor for a health issue you cannot mention getting care without asking if you have insurance. So over the years we've been trained and brainwashed to need this additional service in order to receive healthcare. It's sad. So now, not only are you required to purchase this middle man product, it can cost you an additional $5000 per year for just one person. Now also imagine if you are having to insure your family of four, now we're over $10,000 per year. BUT, now you have to meet the deductible of about $6000 per person BEFORE your insurance kicks in and covers 70-80%, so even then you're still on the hook even after you have met your deductible. There are many people who are now paying crazy prices for insurance that is really doing nothing for them. It's as if you are paying for the privilege to say, "I have insurance." Insurance companies have been feeding off this as well as drug companies, hospitals and anyone in the healthcare industry. They know you will do anything to stay healthy or keep your loved one alive and it gets exploited to make someone else richer.