Why are people so pro Trump getting impeached when it means Mike Pence will get in ??? | Page 5

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  1. Overtures Jobless

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    I said he's unquestionably the worst president of all time for two reasons: 1) it's true in so many ways that it's almost true in every way, and 2) it felt good.

    Even then, if you want to have it your way, Trump has 3+ years left to fuck up whatever geopolitical perks he see to his administration. And it seems like he's heading right in that direction with NK.
     
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  2. Wally Brando Banned

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    I hate Trump as a person and won't likely get to see him torn apart by rapid dogs so impeachment is the next best thing. For the sake of all that is good he must fall. And I dont think Pence would spout off at the mouth and risk nuclear conflagration for the sake of his ego.
     
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  3. AviatorShades Double Yellow Card

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    Yes, I predicted your reasoning would be a large quantity of tiny pet peeves mostly imagined by the 'hip' side of the media rather than an unprecedented or catastrophic policy. Let's move on from that.

    What do you believe he's doing wrong in regards to North Korea's missile threats? China and Russia have dropped their support of NK and it's really just a question of who strikes them first at this point. They are a true rogue nuclear power. What strategy would you pursue?
     
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  4. SaiWa Purple Belt

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    Yo my dude... whatever u are smoking please pass it around cause that is some good shhhiiiaatt u are high on!!! I wanna be on your planet son!

    Btw... Have u seen a donkey by any chance?...
     
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  5. PainIsLIfe Gold Belt

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    He's not sending the 100k, but he's sent troops:

    MARCH 9, 2017
    WASHINGTON — The United States is sending an additional 400 troops to Syria to help prepare for the looming fight for Raqqa, the capital of the Islamic State’s self-proclaimed caliphate, American officials said on Thursday.

    The increase, which includes a team of Army Rangers and a Marine artillery unit that have already arrived in Syria, represents a near-doubling of the number of American troops there.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/world/middleeast/us-troops-syria.html
     
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  6. Overtures Jobless

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    First paragraph is a scapegoat.

    Second paragraph I don't have an answer for. Do you take lightly the fact that a war with NK could potentially lead to massive amounts of civilian deaths across NK, SK, Guam, Japan, etc.?
     
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  7. PainIsLIfe Gold Belt

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    It passed 37-13 in the house including 5 female legislators. A woman co-wrote the bill and another co-sponsored it.
     
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  8. PainIsLIfe Gold Belt

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    If nothing else we'd save some money:

    Donald Trump’s trips to his luxury Florida resort have already cost the US taxpayer at least $24 million (£19.2 million) - roughly as much as Barack Obama spent on travel in the first two years of his presidency.


    Mr Trump has spent seven weekends at Mar-a-Lago since taking office ten weeks ago. It is estimated that each of these trips costs at least $3 million (£2.4 million), covering the President’s extensive security detail.


    In total, Mr Obama's travel bill over the eight years of his presidency came to $97 million (£78 million) - an average of $12.1 million (£9.7 million) a year.

    President Trump almost matched this figure in his first month - spending $10 million (£8 million) on three golfing holidays.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...obama-eight-years-mar-a-lago-us-a7670541.html
     
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  9. AviatorShades Double Yellow Card

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    No, but I don't believe North Korea itself is the obstacle. Any of the major world powers could squish it like an ant and all have taken turns threatening to.

    The problem that nobody wants to foot the bill (and probably only the US can afford to), however Russia/China don't want another US-friendly state at their back door, especially given our reckless trade obstruction/sanctioning habits (this is why we should demand more compelling justification than hacking accusations or how they treat their shemales when we plunge international relations to new lows).

    The dream solution would be unilateral support for a South Korean-led surgical strikes on NK nuclear facilities, but apparently we can't track the precise locations of all of those facilities and there's too much risk of a counter-strike. It also wouldn't achieve much without an occupation since they could just rebuild new sites, and SK military isn't capable of an occupation without knocking us back to the first question (which superpower gets to set up a puppet-state).

    I think given China's gradual economic abandonment, NK's government is on its death bed. The sudden wave of missile provocation isn't as much the result of breakthrough technology as a display of force/legitimacy to the NK public while the classic source of their legitimacy (China) disappears. Trump's best approach (which I bet is already underway) may be to make war seem imminent and further shake the NK public while funding a domestic coup.

    Your original post implied that Trump is worsening the situation/en route to a disaster. How so? It's really a matter of picking the best possible disaster, which is stressing NK into internal collapse (and hoping they aren't dumb enough to actually attack Guam).
     
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  10. Overtures Jobless

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    I don't think Trump is helping or is in a master plan. He's an idiot.


    Maybe his people, not him.


    I like your idea about forcing a NK internal collapse but I don't think that's what's going on. They are for sure doing things to manipulate the public and they for sure don't want war, but Trump and the other guy are playing brinkmanship that could easily lead to accidental war.


    If they hit Guam, we forced their hand.
     
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  11. PrinceOfPain Silver Belt

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    Wow, @AviatorShades saw you coming.
    Would've thought you'd have put up at least a bit of a fight before proving him right though.
    Shame.
     
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  12. kahiljabroni Brown Belt

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    They'll just start crying about pence the very next day without missing a beat. I sure hope Trump stays though, I'm loving the tears.
     
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  13. ocean size Brown Belt

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    I can see why you'd like Pence most of the way other than the Catholic thing. But even if you agree with his positions, he's such a slimy double talking politician. Worse in that regard than anyone else involved in the two primaries including Hillary
     
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    He uses dark side force lightning to convert gay people.
     
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  15. HIMBOB Steel Belt

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    If Trump is worthy of being impeached that stands alone.

    His successor should not affect it.
     
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  16. ShinkanPo Queen of Bad Jokes!

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    That is why she lost then.
     
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  17. Clippy RESORT CLIPPY IS HERE!! I'm on a BOAT!!!!!

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    Exactly. Most people who were experiencing the election thought Hilary had this in the bag , and she did - so they didn't vote because of that. Everyone said Trump was going to lose so why bother vote.

    And that fucked her over!!!
     
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    Doesn't make it right
     
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    Because leftists are like children.
     
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    that's funny I do the same things too. but I fuck your mom, your sisters and your wife all at the same time. they all giggle at how small your so called penis is.
     
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