Discussion in 'The War Room' started by OeuvrePressure, Sep 11, 2017.
The joke was that you saying you've only been wrong once is like Trump only making one blunder.
There's an easter egg in that screenshot just for you.
Not silly. Obama was a great speaker...until the teleprompter quit on him. He didn't have too many gaffs, but that one was pretty good, and sticks out.
This thread isn't about volume of gaffs. Just when they gaffed.
Always thought this was a try-hard argument, and kind of desperate. The whole "Obama can't speak without a teleprompter" bit was made up by people looking for any possible way to insult his intelligence, since there really was not a legitimate way to do so, and the mindless masses bought into it like any other stupid shit their favorite cable news channel pushes.
At the end of his first term, he had held 58 town halls. Gave 1,852 speeches or addresses. Out of all that, he used a prompter 699 times. So at that point we had about 1,000 examples of him being intelligent without a prompter. I think we're good on that.
How come people willfully ignore that he was clearly joking?
He wasn't joking at all. The laugh-track is added by a youtuber. He just had a mental block and couldn't remember the end of the saying.
LOL, why so defensive? This is just a silly thread about when President's sounded dumb. No need for white knighting.
They are all silly examples. They're just people making small mistakes while public speaking. Have you tried speaking to the entire nation? I doubt many people would hold up well. There's a reason a Obama had to take 5 seconds of pause between every 3 words to collect himself.
The real stupid things that presidents say are like when Obama said that women earn 77% less than men for doing the same job, or when Trump says Obama was born in Kenya without proof. I don't fault a guy for saying 'is' instead of 'are' while he's off talking off the cuff, or for saying 'if' 20 times in a row trying to collect his thoughts.
Correction: I've never been wrong. Deal with it.
yet you are carded...
And do you know what for?
I dunno, I think with Trump he pauses sometimes and reaches for something because his 'go to' speech patterns would be pretty unpresidential. IMO he would say much more outlandish things in much less polite terms if he weren't fettered.
for being wrong...
Guess again, sunshine.
I agree with all of this (minus the erroneous normative take on the 77% claim being patently false). GWB was just not a very good speaker: I don't think it spoke in any meaningful capacity to his lack of intelligence.
Like Jack said earlier, the main and unprecedented difference with Trump is that he's impervious to feeling intellectual shame. Instead of appreciating that he's messed up, invented a completely unfounded claim, or began digging himself an argumentative hole or spinning his wheels, he just keeps barreling ahead. Like, if you read some of the transcriptions of his speeches, where one sentence will last paragraphs and meander on about nothing without ever making a point....it's just crazy.
I like this one, in which he actually does finally get to a point.
Or his brilliant points on Native American identity
for being gotten top...last guess as I have other trolls to deal with here...
Nope, troll; for discussing a hypothetical situation from the Philip K. Dick novel The Man in the High Castle.
my bad...PKD is the man...carry on...
Sending people dick pics?
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