Universal/socialist healthcare is worse than what we have now

[AnotherOldGuy]

First person accounts = proof one system is better than the other..... You are the one brainwashed here. If socialized medicine is so much better why do we get so many people coming to the USA from socialist countries for specialized care or because they have to wait 2 years for a procedure? You want first person accounts? I work in the emergency department and we have several Canadians check in on a daily basis because they can't receive the care they need in their home country.

People like you are what's wrong with America. You want everything handed to you.

There are apparently 42,000 Canadians receiving American health care every year. That's out of a population of 35,000,000, so about one in a thousand - and 95% of that population lives within two hours drive of the United States. If the American system was better than Canada's, you'd expect far more Canadians taking advantage of it ... think about it, its one tenth of one percent.

Canada is a democracy. If Canadians thought the American system was better they could have it instantly - in fact, until 1972 Canada did have it. Now public health care is so popular in Canada that even the Conservative Party swears they're never going to touch it ... because touching it is an instant loss in the polls. The Canadian approval rate for public health is in the 90% range, even among conservatives.

Or you can look at results. Canadians on average pay half of what Americans do for health care, and yet live longer. You know those reports of Canadians dying on hospital floors after car crashes and the like because they have to wait months after a serious accident? They're simply nonsense, and its hard to understand how anyone believes them. You really think that if you get into a major accident (car, workplace, you name it) it'll take months to see a doctor (assuming you're somehow still alive despite bleeding like a stuck pig)? Despite what many Americans will tell you about Canadian wait times, its just not the case. I've been in a serious accident in Canada. Ambulance, hospital and emergency ward care without any wait - which is why I'm still alive. And yet when I tell some Americans that they don't believe me, because they're heard that you can wait for weeks or months on the emergency room floor in Canada. Don't believe propaganda (again, just look at the life expectancy numbers).

 

[Orgasmo]

Ultrasound for stomach pain taking three weeks? What if it's appendicitis? You're gonna wait three weeks for them to tell you your appendix exploded?

There is something called the emergency if it's severe pain. It was minor dull pain which disappeared after a week, but I still went in to check.

 

[frandie2b]

Healthcare is probably the best thing you can get being a French citizen.

 

[squeezewax]

Whenever i've needed x-rays i got them the same day, all this talk about waiting 6 months is rubbish. In America there is a load of shit spoken about healthcare in Australia, nz, and britain, etc.
People can obviously still go private if they wish.
Frankly i don't know how Americans manage paying for medical insurance, some of the monthly figures i've heard of are very expensive.
I have never had to worry about whether i could afford drugs or afford any medical procedures, it's great!