UFC Fox 27 - Jacare vs Brunson II - Charlotte

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  1. pytycrys

    pytycrys Green Belt

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    Like it.
    Took 0.6u on that +228 at Marathon :p
     
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    I don't like this card for betting at all, and I've never said something like that before
     
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  3. Bodybuilder

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    Took Brunson +150, no value at the current line. Thinking about arbing out actually, I think Souza's decline is not nearly as bad as some think.

    Was going to bet Neto BJJ, but after watching tape not that impressed. I think the odds are spot on, not seeing much value on either side.
     
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  4. SBJJ

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    He looked fine. That is far from awesome.

    He's 100% deflated from his Pre Whittaker fights
     
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  5. SBJJ

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    He should look even better rehydrated
     
  6. SBJJ

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    Jacare was on the Juice IMO. I know the way my body looks on and off the stuff. There's very little doubt he's now off

    What that has to do with the actual fight is up in the air. But he's not physically the same as he was a few years ago
     
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    Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

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    Yes, just like how Rampage looked good last weekend on the scales. How in the world would you argue that someone would "look even better" in regards to being ripped when hydrated? I honestly think the body composition analyzing on this forum is as bad as the #elite #lock talk.
     
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  8. SBJJ

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    Rampage did look good on the scale. What's your point?

    It's not about being ripped. It's about the mass of ones chest, shoulders/traps. The looseness of the midsection. He's obviously off the juice, if you want to ignore it that's cool

    You are taking Monday morning to new levels in here. You are wrong as much if not more than anyone in here. But you have a nasty habit of bringing up others losses while completely ignoring your own

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with analyzing a way a fighter looks or that his physique may be changing.

    It's amazing that you'd get up in arms over it
     
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    Nail. Head.
     
  10. SBJJ

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    Yea. Just like how Rampage...

    LOFL

    This 6th grade?
     
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  12. TheOneTrueKing

    TheOneTrueKing 4th most under appreciated tipster @betmmatips

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    forum dog play looking good. sharp action coming in consistently all week shortening the price to 2.86
     
  13. SBJJ

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    It's not like anyone is saying he can't or won't win. Or that he looks like utter shit

    It's like you can't even point out obvious shit in here because 1 guy will say.....but remember that other time

    A fighter can still win looking bad on the scales. A fighter can lose looking good
     
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    what's the forum dog play this week? i thought it was brunson
     
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    think he's maybe the more likely finisher of the two but think the fight goes 3 and think green gets a close decision.

    that about sums it up. bets in line w/this. very small on koch nsc, even smaller on green dec (by virtue of some rr action), and a sub-1u play on O2.5.

    not a fight i'm targeting. i would say "lookin to live bet it" (and i am), but it's hard to get much down live for me right now.
     
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    as much as i want to stay from other forum member's argu... i mean, discussions. I think both @Oblivian and @SBJJ have valid points. this thread does get a major hard on based on physiques and it usually plays into whatever narrative they have already created in their minds (rampage from last week). but w that being said, i dont think its wrong to assume Jacare, at the tail end of his career, post USADA, may have a decline that coincides with the way he looks during the weigh ins, whether its rehydrated or what. fighters get older, their athletic ability declines, and they potentially cant train as hard due to nagging injuries or loss of passion.
     
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  17. SBJJ

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    With Ya 100%. And that is a good way to discuss it

    I don't think anyone has said he looks horrible. Just different than a few years back.
     
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  18. TheOneTrueKing

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    brunson too. everyone on kim aswell in bets thread. my only 2 plays so far
     
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  19. SBJJ

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    Maybe Kim
     
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  20. Soccer Steve

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    Yes, and that his obvious physical decline (because it is indeed obvious) is coinciding with losses as well. Does that mean he loses tonight? No. But it makes a bet on a +150-or-whatever opponent, a capable opponent at that, a no-brainer. We shouldn't take flack for dissecting what a fighter looks like.

    The 'good old days' of this forum are a nostalgic block for some guys here sometimes.
     
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