The GOAT of every Country, Region, State

Aranha21 said:
Wins over Kharitanov, Belfort, Lesnar, Werdum, JDS >> a robbery win over Randleman and a career fighting smaller fighters under strange rules in Japan. Overeem also did a hell of a lot more in Kickboxing.

Would you really pick Bas to beat Reem?
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It's not like Bas is a giant himself. By today's standards he'd be fighting at LHW or MW. Just because you don't know the guys Rutten fought in Pancrase doesn't make them cans. The rules were strange, I give you that.

Would I 265 Reem over 205 Rutten? It hink Rutten would have a hard time beating him, yes. I would take Rutten over pre-roid Reem though.

Also, neither Reem's or Rutten's kickboxing credentials have any bearing on how they're ranked in MMA.
 
Hagelslag2 said:
It's not like Bas is a giant himself. By today's standards he'd be fighting at LHW or MW. Just because you don't know the guys Rutten fought in Pancrase doesn't make them cans. The rules were strange, I give you that.

Would I 265 Reem over 205 Rutten? It hink Rutten would have a hard time beating him, yes. I would take Rutten over pre-roid Reem though.

Also, neither Reem's or Rutten's kickboxing credentials have any bearing on how they're ranked in MMA.
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Did I say anyone was a can? I've seen a lot of Pancrase you cock sucka. Fact is, Bas was bigger than the majority of them and they had strange rules, exactly as I said.

I never normally mention kickboxing fights in relation to MMA fighters, but I think with them both being Dutch, its fair. Reem achieved more in both sports IMO. Nothing to be ashamed of for Bas, he was just from a different era and has been surpassed.
 
klimt said:
Also, I would say that Rory McDonald is as worthy of mention as Alan Belcher or Din Thomas- why not add a province or two for Canada?
This might be the case for other countries too.
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After doing the list for Brazil, and not really finding enough quality fighters to fill-out that many of the states, I called it a day. And I didn't do one for Japan, how could I do one for Canada?

But alright...
So Canada has 13 Provinces & Territories, right?

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CANADA

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  • Alberta -- Jordan Mein
  • B.C. -- Rory MacDonald
  • Manitoba -- Joe Doerksen
  • New Brunswick -- Ryan Jimmo
  • New & Lab --
  • NW Territories --
  • Nova Scotia -- TJ Grant
  • Nunavut --
  • Ontario -- Mark Hominick
  • P.E. Island --
  • Quebec -- Georges St Pierre
  • Saskatchewan --
  • Yukon --
Note:
Carlos Newton was born in Anguilla a territory of the U.K.
Gary Goodridge was born in Trinidad and Tobago
 
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And if I'm going to do Canada, I should really go one more level and do one for the state of California...

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CALIFORNIA
aka MMA Mecca

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The Bay Area
  • Alameda Co -- Chris Camozzi
  • Contra Costa Co -- Ramsey Nijem
  • Marin Co --
  • Napa Co -- Jerry Bohlander
  • San Francisco Co -- Bruce Lee (Honorary), Danny Castillo
  • San Mateo Co --
  • Santa Clara Co -- Josh Thomson
  • Solano Co -- Mark Muñoz* (born on U.S. base in Japan)
  • Sonoma Co --
Central Coast
  • Monterey Co -- Cain Velasquez (r.AZ)
  • San Benito Co --
  • San Luis Obispo Co -- Tim Kennedy
  • Santa Barbara Co -- Chuck Liddell
  • Santa Cruz Co -- Luke Rockhold
Los Angeles/So Cal
  • L.A. Co -- Dan Henderson (r.San Ber Co.), Gene LeBell (Honorary)
  • Orange Co -- Gilbert Melendez or Tito Ortiz
  • Riverside Co -- Ronda Rousey (*G4G)
  • San Bernardino Co -- Bobby Green
  • Ventura Co -- Tony Ferguson (r.MI)
Lower California
  • Imperial Co --
  • San Diego Co -- Dominick Cruz (r.AZ) or Robbie Lawler
Sacramento Metro
  • El Dorado Co --
  • Placer Co --
  • Sacramento Co -- Tyson Griffin
  • Sutter Co --
  • Yolo Co --
  • Yuba Co --
San Joaquin Valley
  • Fresno Co -- Cole Escovedo or Zoila Frausto (*G4G)
  • Kern Co --
  • Kings Co -- Chad Mendes
  • Madera Co -- Lavar Johnson
  • Merced Co -- Marvin Eastman
  • San Joaquin Co -- Nick Diaz
  • Stanislaus Co -- Michael McDonald
  • Tulare Co -- Joe Soto
Sierra/East
  • Alpine Co --
  • Amador Co --
  • Calaveras Co --
  • Inyo Co --
  • Mariposa Co --
  • Mono Co --
  • Tuolumne Co -- TJ Dillashaw
Upper California
    • Butte Co --
    • Colusa Co --
    • Del Norte Co --
    • Glenn Co --
    • Humboldt Co --
    • Lake Co --
    • Lassen Co --
    • Mendocino Co --
    • Modoc Co --
    • Nevada Co --
    • Plumas Co --
    • Shasta Co --
    • Sierra Co --
    • Siskiyou Co --
    • Tehama Co --
    • Trinity Co --


Note:
- Urijah Faber was born in Santa Barbara (Chuck Liddell) and raised in Placer Co (Sacramento Metro).
 
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South Africa -- Ruan Potts
 
Scotland - Stevie Ray
England - Michael Bisping
Northern Ireland - Norman Parke?
 
CoffeeAndBeer said:
After doing the list for Brazil, and not really finding enough quality fighters to fill-out that many of the states, I called it a day. And I didn't do one for Japan, how could I do one for Canada?

But alright...
So Canada has 13 Provinces & Territories, right?

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CANADA

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  • Alberta -- Ryan Ford
  • B.C. -- Rory MacDonald
  • Manitoba -- Joe Doerksen
  • New Brunswick -- Ryan Jimmo
  • New & Lab --
  • NW Territories --
  • Nova Scotia -- TJ Grant
  • Nunavut --
  • Ontario -- Mark Hominick
  • P.E. Island --
  • Quebec -- Georges St Pierre
  • Saskatchewan --
  • Yukon --
Note:
Carlos Newton was born in Anguilla a territory of the U.K.
Gary Goodridge was born in Trinidad and Tobago
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Yup, not trying to get all nationalistic or anything, just noting that limiting some countries to one fighter when others have dozens thrown in can skew the list. I don't think you need to do every state/province of every country, just those with notable fighters.
 
SwinnsAndFedes said:
Finland: Anton Kuivanen, Karja Kankaanpaa or Sauli Heilimo. Makwan with a win over Wilkinson takes the honor. Hopefully we can produce better talent in the future, there are some decent prospects like Aleksi Nurminen and Janne Elonen-Kulmala.
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I still consider Tom Niinimäki over those guys and a girl even with his habit of getting choked in the ufc. Makwan would be already but I guess people of Kurdistan don't cound under these rules lol. Even if they dont have heir own country.
 
SwinnsAndFedes said:
Finland: Anton Kuivanen, Karja Kankaanpaa or Sauli Heilimo. Makwan with a win over Wilkinson takes the honor. Hopefully we can produce better talent in the future, there are some decent prospects like Aleksi Nurminen and Janne Elonen-Kulmala.
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SirKratos said:
Teemu Packalen too.
But Makwan is Iraqi
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sonhow said:
I still consider Tom Niinimäki over those guys and a girl even with his habit of getting choked in the ufc. Makwan would be already but I guess people of Kurdistan don't cound under these rules lol. Even if they dont have heir own country.
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So do we have a consensus on Finland?
Remember the list is based on Place of Birth.

I only know Makwan Amirkhani (from the MMA Roasted podcast with Adam Hunter, and reputation).

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TCE said:
Australia = Robert Whittaker
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No Mark Hunt love?

Oops, just noticed place of birth. We're both wrong. It probably has to be George Sotiropolous.
 
Ceará - Rony Jason (gives a shoutout to Quixada every time he wins)
 
Xtal said:
Ceará - Rony Jason (gives a shoutout to Quixada every time he wins)
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I haven't done as thorough of a job with Brasil as I did with the U.S.... but with a quick check...

Thiago Alves is from Fortaleza, Ceará (added to the list).
Ceará -- Thiago > Rony
 
Mug said:
Scotland - Stevie Ray
England - Michael Bisping
Northern Ireland - Norman Parke?
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What's the deal with the United Kingdom anyway? Ya got "The U.K."... "Great Britain"... "Britain"... "England"... "The United Kingdom or Great Britain and Ireland"... what the fook, mate?

As far as I can figure, England, Scotland, N.Ireland, and Wales are all called "countries" but it's the U.K. (all together) that's really the "sovereign state."

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UNITED KINGDOM

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  • England --
    • East Midlands -- Dan Hardy
    • East of England -- Liam McGeary
    • London -- Alistair Overeem (r.Netherlands)
    • North East -- Ross Pearson
    • North West -- Michael Bisping (tied w/Overeem?)
    • South East -- Linton Vassell
    • South West -- Brad Scott
    • West Midlands -- Tom Breese
    • Yorkshire & Humber --
  • Northern Ireland -- Norman Parke
  • Scotland -- Joanne Calderwood* (G4G)... and/or... Stevie Ray
  • Wales -- Jack Marshman
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Note:
- Michael Bisping was born in U.K. area of Cyprus; raised in North West, England
- Paul Daley was born in London; raised in East Midlands, England
- Jimi Manuwa was born in the Sacramento, California, U.S.A.; raised in the U.K. (somewhere?)
*Gender-for-Gender
 
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