Any peer reviewed research on this matter you'd like to share?No they should get nothing. There are too many American citizens that need help and mass immigration is a reason many people are doing poorly because they devalue wages.
Immigration improves government finances, whether it's sales tax, payroll tax that they will never collect, or just normal income tax as citizens.1. We close mental health facilities all over the country for budgetary cuts.
2. We have no viable public Drug addiction treatment centers, due to budgetary concerns.
We have homeless primarily because the country has refused to build enough housing and artificially restricted supply.2b. The homeless population is at unprecedented levels due to this. Literal health concerns like diseases emerge that we haven't seen in decades due to the people living on the streets.
3. We have Vets that are homeless and need assistance.
I suppose the irony of effectively paraphrasing the Statue of Liberty is lost on you. Any study worth it's salt and vaguely rigorous has found that immigration is a net positive financially for America.4. Hey, come on in everyone from other countries, we will feed, clothe and house you. We will educate your kids! Yeah it may cost billions, but so what??
OP, can you clarify whom we are looking at?
Legal immigrants are a very different issue from illegal. They are net contributors. Attempting to the paint both issues with one brush results in misleading conclusions.
As to illegal immigrants, from Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation, testified before US Senate Budget Committee, 9/13/23:
"Illegal or unauthorized aliens are persons who reside in the nation unlawfully; they have entered and reside in the country without legal permission or have entered the country on a temporary visa and have remained here after its expiration. The current net fiscal cost of illegal aliens in the U.S.is between $84 and $94 billion per year. This means that illegal aliens receive $84 to $94 billion more in government benefits and services than they pay in total taxes.
... Using figures from the National Academies of Science, the net life-time fiscal cost of current illegal aliens following amnesty would between $3.8 and $4.2 trillion (in 2022 dollars).Immigration obviously increases the Gross Domestic Product but most of this increase goes as wages to the immigrant workers themselves. An increase in GDP due to immigration does not mean there is an increase in the per capita income of U.S. The real economic test of any immigration policy is whether it makes current lawful residents better off by raising their after-tax incomes. Both low skill immigration and illegal immigration in general harm current citizens and lawful residents by placing substantial added burdens on U.S. taxpayers."
The 17 page summation offers data supporting Legal Immigration as a net benefit to the US, but Illegal Immigration as a net cost.
So, which one are we talking about?
(Either way, the question of where the money will come from stands, as we can not afford to continue to provide our current citizens what we are offering now, sans fiscal change).
Fuck no. Any of that aid should go to homeless and poor American citizens.Do you think we should provide migrants with free housing, food, medical, welfare in general, etc..?
Fuck no. Any of that aid should go to homeless and poor American citizens.
Where does the money come from?
US transfer payments in 2022 were over 3.7$ trillion, comprising ~54% of all federal outlays.
("Transfer payments" are any payments the government does not currently receive any goods and/or services for, such as Social Security, Pensions, Welfare, Medicare, etc.)
The primary deficit is over 2.4$ trillion, and the entire Defense budget was just 900$ billion (less than 25% of transfers).
Where is the money coming from to pay for this?
Do these workers not spend money in the US or something? Do they not eat, or need housing? The fact that this is how the author frames the data is a red flag he's abusing it for partisan gain.Immigration obviously increases the Gross Domestic Product but most of this increase goes as wages to the immigrant workers themselves.
The solution is pretty clearly increase your tax base or increase tax rates. Aka immigration does the former and I don't think people want to pay higher taxes.(Either way, the question of where the money will come from stands, as we can not afford to continue to provide our current citizens what we are offering now, sans fiscal change).
Is there a reason that migrants today should have to jump through insanely higher hoops than migrants 100 years ago?No. Accepted migrants should have either demonstrable established means or private sponsorship. Illegals should get absolutely nothing. Asylum seekers are a different topic but I generally believe the level for their admittance should be incredibly high and selective
So....effectively a tax cut for wealthy Americans?Or just go back to tax payers based on dollar contribution
I know, it's not like Social Security is literally funded by payroll tax, whether workers are here illegally or not. Illegal immigrants pay into Social Security for benefits they very realistically will never receive.The people who advocate for this stuff don't actually think more than one step ahead.
Of these two immigrants, which one is more likely to contribute to the US in your opinion.Find the immigrants that are going to have the greatest potential to benefit the country and make it easy for them to immigrate. Exclude and keep out the ones with the least potential to benefit the country.
Do these workers not spend money in the US or something? Do they not eat, or need housing? The fact that this is how the author frames the data is a red flag he's abusing it for partisan gain.
The solution is pretty clearly increase your tax base or increase tax rates. Aka immigration does the former and I don't think people want to pay higher taxes.
This is a lot of to reply to but raising taxes doesn’t mean anything if the govt can’t spend it responsiblyDo these workers not spend money in the US or something? Do they not eat, or need housing? The fact that this is how the author frames the data is a red flag he's abusing it for partisan gain.
The solution is pretty clearly increase your tax base or increase tax rates. Aka immigration does the former and I don't think people want to pay higher taxes.
Is there a reason that migrants today should have to jump through insanely higher hoops than migrants 100 years ago?
So....effectively a tax cut for wealthy Americans?
I know, it's not like Social Security is literally funded by payroll tax, whether workers are here illegally or not. Illegal immigrants pay into Social Security for benefits they very realistically will never receive.
Of these two immigrants, which one is more likely to contribute to the US in your opinion.
1. Someone who gave up everything to travel thousands of miles on a dangerous journey with no guarantee of success and extremely limited access to welfare or government support.
2. Someone who flew here on a plane because their parents were rich enough to invest in some very expensive property.