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Fat loss would've put him 2 divisions lowers and would not have fought those guys.
Roy Nelson vs Anderson Silva?
Roy Nelson vs Machida?
Fat loss would've put him 2 divisions lowers and would not have fought those guys.
You do, though... unless you learn to strike with better technique, get stronger, get faster, et cetera... which you might... but if you don't, all other things remaining equal, with less mass you will lose power. It's a pretty simple physics problem.
You do, though... unless you learn to strike with better technique, get stronger, get faster, et cetera... which you might... but if you don't, all other things remaining equal, with less mass you will lose power. It's a pretty simple physics problem.
You're not an intelligent person.Nelson's kind of like Hunt. They both needed to be heavy to generate their power. Without their power, they would've been toast.
It's not simple physics.
That's like saying if Nelson weighed 400 lbs, he'd triple his punching power. It doesn't work like that.
There are a lot of factors to consider. There are countless boxers who moved up\down in weight and it did not translate into more\less power. It depends on the individual.
Not true. I was 163 lbs this winter. Now I'm 152 lbs. I am stronger and more powerful in every way right now than I was then.
Wtf are you on now? That makes about no sense at all. I've given you the formula ffs the relationship between mass and velocity is clear IT'S IN THE FORMULA FOR KINETIC ENERGY.
I'm glad you're bringing up guns though.
Mass of a bullet 4 g
Mass of Roy Nelson 120,000 g
If (you think) mass so important then how come a bullet can kill you but a punch from Roy Nelson is unlikely to?
Because the energy it hits you with is = 1/2 mv^2 so it's the velocity that matters most because you're squaring it and a bullet is travelling much faster (whichever gun it comes from) than a punch from a fat or slim Roy Nelson is.
Incriment mass by 1
1/2 x 3 x2^2 = 6
1/2 x 2 x2^2 = 4
1/2 x 1 x2^2 = 2
Incriment velocity by 1
1/2 x 1 x4^2 = 8
1/2 x 1 x3^2 = 4.5
1/2 x 1 x2^2 = 2
Velocity matters more than mass but trebling the mass has more of an impact than doubling the velocity so clearly they both matter. Assuming that a loss in mass won't be made up by a gain in velocity is where the discussion is and that's much more complex.
Exactly. The loss of mass is not typically made up for by the gain in velocity. Not in life in general, and certainly not in human athletics and fighting. No one doubles his speed just because he loses half his weight. It's one of the reasons we have weight classes, actuall
Given that we're now in the twilight of his career, with nothing but toughness keeping him going, I think its worth asking the question of how much better Roy could have been.
It's easy to forget just how talented the guy is.
He never bothered to elevate his striking beyond a big right hand, yet his power and timing allowed him to scrape by on it alone.
However, at the elite level, the basic nature of his striking meant he was little more than a punching bag.
Roy is a high level black belt, yet prefers to stand and bang, and will do so to the detriment of his chances of winning.
Shown here outgrappling Frank Mir in his prime. Yet, how often do we see Roy going for submissions?
His greatest talent, however, is the fact that he possesses arguably the best chin in the history of the sport. He's gone entire fights with his face being used as a heavy bag and ended the match still swinging. He's been kneed in the face, kicked in the head, caught by completely flush haymakers, and hammered over and over in the chin, yet he just keeps slogging forward.
He's absorbed more significant strikes than any fighter in UFC heavyweight history (most to the head), yet he just keeps on trucking, seeming to still be freakishly tough at age 41. Last night he ate frontkicks and knees to the chin from a huge HW like they were nothing.
Its patently obvious Roy never should have been a heavyweight. He's a natural small middleweight who happens to be obese. Yet, lack of discipline meant he never made the cut. It's also clear he needed better gameplans, and should have tried to improve his striking technique.
I think he's an easily championship level talent who never got his act together. What say you?
Alcohol fuck him
No, I called him a small MW. I think his frame is smaller than Tim Boetsch, for example.Roy Nelson a small MW? LMFAO, did you just call Roy Nelson a big WW???
Negro please, educate yourself more. Yes, the man is fat....but he still has a large frame. The fact that he can take MASSIVE shots from large heavyweights is proof alone that the guy has a HW frame and an extremely thick bone density.
Exactly, isnt the other way around it? Boxers say this all the time, they are KO machines at the lower weight classes until they move up in weight and not all of them carry the power the same, or their rivals just take it easier.You don't automatically give up power if you drop weight. Why do people always say this? Ridiculous.