No one is suggesting nagging here. Certainly not me. I am suggesting the opposite of nagging.
There have been times where I have found my partner super sexy for whatever odd reason at that time of day and she might not have been in that frame of mind and you start to get playful and she says something like 'not now I am not in the mood'. But as you continue to playfully push she feels how much you are in the mood and into her in that moment. Girls can and do find a guys passion for them hot and it CAN change their mood and suddenly she can be horny too simply reacting to how horny you are.
I've had some of my most spontaneous and hottest sex that way when neither of us, was thinking about and then suddenly a mood hits and you make it happen.
oh and btw it goes both ways. Many times the gals I've been dating got me in the mood when I wasn't prior because I could sense how in the mood they were.
Krrame, for one states that is wrong. You either both are or not simultaneously and any attempt to change the other is wrong and abuse.
This may be accurate for some. However in my relationship whenever my girl was in a bad mood about something, it was my job to get her into the mood for sex. I was always successful. If I had to start rubbing feet on the couch and working a slow massage up the legs until I get to the spot then that's what I'm going to do. If I have to say dumb joke after dumb joke to get her to laugh I will. I don't care if it takes an hour of warming her up. I'd say I have about a 99%ish success rate.I won't say that nagging someone to have sex with you is akin to rape, but I will say that it's the opposite of hot.
I've never understood why anyone would want to pressure someone into sex. A large part of the appeal of sex (for me anyway) is that the person *wants* to have it with you. If that's not there, then it's not meant to be.
Women have it easier. bout all they have to do to convince a man to have sex is undress.
Because I think that we should respect their words when they say No, i am triggered SJW? You are aware of the massive rape problem in America right? It's not masculine to coerce a woman to fuck you, its bullshit is what it is. Why would you want to fuck someone who really didn't want to be with you in the first place?That sounds like some modern dickless social justice triggered little coward shit to me.
If you turn her on, good for both of you. If you're just verbally harassing her and she gives in to stop your begging that's a little pathetic. In neither case is there anything overtly incorrect at play.
I honestly have to agree with this.. Not one person on this forums opinion is worth enough to warrant an entire thread about it, let alone mine.Why would anyone give anything @Kframe says enough thought to make a thread about it?
Krrame, for one states that is wrong. You either both are or not simultaneously and any attempt to change the other is wrong and abuse.
Marriage foreplay is several hours of begging.
If you want honest quote me as you are the one changing what I said.Yeah because you misrepresent here what you actually said.
You said when it comes to first time sex with a girl you have to be the aggressor because women like to submit to men.
And that sex is an ugly game.
At least keep it honest. You will have enough time spinning your behavior in front of a jury.
No reason to do it here.
Did you feel that her trying to convince you and turn you on was abusive or wrong?I lived with a girl who got really randy after midnight. This was fine on occasion, but I had to get up for work at four, and there are only so many times in a row you can have sex all night and hope to get any work done the next day. I started saying no, and she would get upset when I could not be, um, compelled to perform. Finally, I told her I'd be happy to have sex with her after midnight, but she would have to come to work at the same time as me (we worked in the same place).
Because I think that we should respect their words when they say No, i am triggered SJW? You are aware of the massive rape problem in America right? It's not masculine to coerce a woman to fuck you, its bullshit is what it is. Why would you want to fuck someone who really didn't want to be with you in the first place?
Wouldn't it be better if the partner actually wanted to be with you and it required no coercion? It's called clear and concise communication, both sexes need to learn it. Your yes should mean yes, and your no should mean no. No more of the games. Honest and frank communication by both the male and female should be the rule of our society, not dominance games by PUA's.
women definitely have it easier but it is not always a sure thing.Women have it easier. bout all they have to do to convince a man to have sex is undress.
Did you feel that her trying to convince you and turn you on was abusive or wrong?
Not asking if you thought the timing was inconvenient but rather that her having a desire at the time you did not was abusive if she tried to convince you as Kframe and others are saying?
Your scenario is akin to my story where my gal was getting ready for the show and myself being all horned up over came her initial 'no, not now we are going out soon' objection and we ended up hacking super passionate crazy sex and missed most of the play.
Kframe is clear that that type of situation is clearly abusive since she said no initially and i had to win her over and get her horned up as well.
Completely agree.Yeah, I see the difference. If two people have an established sexual rapport and it's just an 'eh I don't feel like it' not in the mood, vs. a real 'no', then in that case nagging can be harmlessly cute at worst, or at best turn to hot. As long as a person respects 'no' then I see no problem with it.
When a person who does not have that kind of relationship is just continually trying to get in the pants of someone who is clearly not interested, then it's a different creepy story.
At first I was ignoring him in the other thread as I thought he was an 18 year old child which made sense based on his view of adult sexxuality. But then he got other support and i really got confused?Why would anyone give anything @Kframe says enough thought to make a thread about it?