No small joint manipulation/Aikido in UFC?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Ogata, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. Ogata

    Ogata Red Belt

    Joined:
    May 30, 2013
    Messages:
    7,756
    Likes Received:
    7,288
    Its called "Ultimate Fighting Championship" and not " kickboxing, wrestling and bjj championship"
     
  2. Strategery

    Strategery Blue Belt

    Joined:
    May 27, 2015
    Messages:
    566
    Likes Received:
    437
    I found this Segal vid to be quite impressive. Then again, he is gigantic with massive hands and his attackers are manlets:



    It's not a combat sport. Period.

    I took a semester of Aikido when I was a black belt in TKD and found the experience unsatisfying. It's awkward and complicated, and the learning curve is steep. Compare this to my good friend who is also a black belt in TKD and just started no-gi BJJ. He loves it and it immediately made sense. Same with my non-MA stepson who is big and strong. Loved it! Focus on just a basic move at a time. Very tiring though, or so I'm told.
     
    Rvd Slmr likes this.
  3. Wizzlebiz

    Wizzlebiz Wizzlebiz is the Wizziest

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2015
    Messages:
    4,439
    Likes Received:
    10,233
    Location:
    Nor Cal
    I manipulate small joints, big joints, blunts, bongs, bowls, and vapes.
    im-so-high-i-dont-know-whats-going-on-right-now.jpg

    Am i doing this right?
     
    Draxton likes this.
  4. Sir Punchalot

    Sir Punchalot Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2002
    Messages:
    8,850
    Likes Received:
    5,956
    It's called the Ultimate Fighting Championship in the context of being a sport, and not some B-movie secret fight to the death competition on an island a short boat ride from Hong Kong.
     
    ventrue and wigglestick like this.
  5. Mortigan

    Mortigan Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2015
    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    522
    The best thing you can do for self defense is not be an asshole or spend time around assholes.

    Aikido small joint manipulation is inferior to jiujutsu small joint manipulation.. because it is a nominally peaceful jiujutsu derivative. Aikido was heavily influenced by the post-war ban on fight training, much like light beer is still around because of prohibition.

    I'll drink Miller, but I also will admit that it is exactly what it is, and not some super secret special "champagne of beers", that is blatantly incoherent false advertising.
     
    HHJ and toutadixballes like this.
  6. Metheus

    Metheus Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    2,228
    Likes Received:
    1,552
    Location:
    Here
    I'm not going through 6 pages and 3+ years of posts, but there is a guy on YouTube who has basically answered your question as an aikido master of his own school.



    check out his videos as he comes to the realization that aikido doesnt do some of the things it purports to do. Sorry if this has already been posted, like I said, not reading 6 necro pages.
     
  7. storeybuckle

    storeybuckle Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Messages:
    2,759
    Likes Received:
    898
    Location:
    Los Angelos CA
    An Aikido practitioner even with small joint manipulation still wouldn't be able to do little shit
     
  8. storeybuckle

    storeybuckle Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Messages:
    2,759
    Likes Received:
    898
    Location:
    Los Angelos CA
    Aikido= Bullshido
     
    WARinsertname and Mike K.O like this.
  9. Mike K.O

    Mike K.O Shogun Rua is my hero

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2018
    Messages:
    1,855
    Likes Received:
    3,945
    Aikido was proven to be useless.
    In CQC situation most attackers would still throw punches or grapple, not run at you with one hand up
     
    WARinsertname likes this.
  10. Espresso

    Espresso Khabib, "The mad, backwards kunt"

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2018
    Messages:
    1,999
    Likes Received:
    4,412
    List of things to do in a real fight

    i.Butting with the head
    ii.Eye gouging of any kind
    iii.Biting
    iv.Spitting at an opponent
    v.Hair pulling
    vi.Fish hooking
    vii.Groin attacks of any kind
    viii.Putting a finger into any orifice or any cut or laceration of an opponent
    ix.Small joint manipulation
    x.Striking downward using the point of the elbow
    xi.Striking to the spine or the back of the head
    xii.Kicking to the kidney with a heel
    xiii.Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea
    xiv.Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh
    xv.Grabbing the clavicle
    xvi.Kicking the head of a grounded opponent
    xvii.Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent
    xviii.Stomping a grounded opponent
    xix.Holding the fence
    xx.Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent
    xxi.Using abusive language in fenced ring/fighting area
    xxii.Engaging in any unsportsmanlike conduct that causes injury to an opponent
    xxiii.Attacking an opponent on or during the break
    xxiv.Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee
    xxv.Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the round
    xxvi.Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury
    xxvii.Throwing opponent out of ring/fighting area
    xxviii.Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee
    xxix.Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck
    xxx.Interference by the corner
    xxxi.Applying any foreign substance to the hair or body to gain an advantage
     
    ArkhamAsylum likes this.
  11. ThePatriot

    ThePatriot Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2010
    Messages:
    5,890
    Likes Received:
    2,592
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC
    Aikido is just too effective

    Mma isn't true fighting, none of these guys beat a prime Seagal
     
  12. Ghostoftheville

    Ghostoftheville Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Messages:
    1,923
    Likes Received:
    1,688
    Location:
    Kentucky
    Who decided to dust this shit off?
     
    accolyte1022 likes this.
  13. toutadixballes

    toutadixballes Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2014
    Messages:
    824
    Likes Received:
    1,672
    This.
     
    HHJ likes this.
  14. ArkhamAsylum

    ArkhamAsylum Black Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2009
    Messages:
    7,262
    Likes Received:
    1,891
    Location:
    Valhalla
    The TS himself. It had been dead for over a year until he bumped it. Again.
    Post 261
     
    Ghostoftheville likes this.
  15. TriangleMonkey

    TriangleMonkey Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 22, 2008
    Messages:
    4,989
    Likes Received:
    4,069
    Location:
    The MMA capital of the world, the Midwest
    Wrist locks are legit as fuck in nogi submission and are availible from many, many positions.

    The problem in MMA is you tape your wrist so that it doesnt bend past that point. But I think they could still be pulled off if you have the arm pinned good enough. Especially when people are defending a triangle choke, I find that a great time to wrist lock that ass.
     
  16. Kingz

    Kingz Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2009
    Messages:
    16,258
    Likes Received:
    15,640
    Location:
    West Sacramento, CA
    Steven Seagal would’ve discredited the whole sport before it could take off if it were legal
     
    ventrue likes this.
  17. JabToucher

    JabToucher Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2018
    Messages:
    2,135
    Likes Received:
    4,308
    Location:
    UK
    He seems quite taken to mma now. Seen more of his recent stuff.
     
  18. Mentallooser

    Mentallooser Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2010
    Messages:
    2,338
    Likes Received:
    842
    Arts that don't let you practice against live resistance, do not work against trained fighters. That simple.
     
    Chris Hansen likes this.
  19. kfighter

    kfighter Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2015
    Messages:
    154
    Likes Received:
    171
    BJ and I quote "Georges, I am going to go to the death"
     
    ventrue likes this.
  20. Chris Hansen

    Chris Hansen Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    168
    Likes Received:
    249
    Location:
    The Decoy House
    Dew yu even krav brah?
     
    Ghostoftheville likes this.

Share This Page