No small joint manipulation/Aikido in UFC?

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  1. Ogata

    Ogata Red Belt

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    So I just got done training with a gentlemen who is well versed in Aikido as well as Chin Na and we started talking about mma and why mma doesn't accept aikido.

    So he told me that Aikido addresses small joint locking as well as restraining opponents in closed space area like in a hallway or a narrow space that doesn't allow the practioner to get in to a fighting stance since according to him, the martial arts that encompesses mma are only applicable in open spaces.

    Now I am wondering if he has a point and that Aikido is infact a good martial arts in general?

    Also, I was looking at the ufc page and there are some funny rules and they wrote "thereferee" which I assume it should be "the referee" fyi letting you know its not my quoting...

    http://www.ufc.ca/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations

     
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    ventrue <img src="http://i52.tinypic.com/245zjwo.gif"> Platinum Member

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    Dude, you want people to be permanently disabled and fans only to see their fighters fight 1 time, and then retire????


    That's why they made rules for MMA. It is a competition, not a fight to the death.
     
  3. tabasco

    tabasco White Belt

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    what he said
     
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    By Small Joint manipulation, they don't mean wrist locks or that bullshit, they mean you can't snap someone's finger or toe in half...
     
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    Your kidding TS right?
     
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    IMO the best thing you can do for self defense is just workout and specialize in krav maga.
     
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  7. Ogata

    Ogata Red Belt

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    Im not saying they should, all Im asking is, if he has a point about Aikido being an effective martial arts despite the fact that its not applicable in an mma setting.




    Isn't wrists considered a small joint? Also, when it gets sweaty and slippery, woulden't it take immense amount of skills to perform a toe and finger lock? I mean, footstomps are legal if I recall correctly...


    Are YOU Kidding!?????

    Bro, you do realize people can mislable on youtube right??? I mean ffs, this is NOT Aikido! This is some dude who woke up thinking he is master roshi and just ran with his new identity until he blieved his own BS.
     
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  8. spid3yo

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    How dumb would you have to be to try and wrist lock somebody who's hands and wrists are already taped up to prevent such movement.
     
  9. pseudo genki

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    Wrist locks are legal in MMA, they're just hard to pull off under adrenal stress against a resisting opponent and even harder to finish when both fighters have their hands wrapped to protect their wrists.

    Could you break someone's fingers? Sure. Would they probably break yours back? Yeah. Can someone pummel you unconscious with a broken finger? Definitely.
    The fine joint manipulation rules aren't because Aikido/Chin Na/Dim Mak/AmeriDoTe are too deadly for MMA, they're to avoid needless petty injuries that don't end fights but guarantee that both fighters will be out recovering for several months instead of training for their next fight.
     
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    Turtleguard Brown Belt

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    Aikido isn't a legit martial art, end of fucking story. That bullshit does not work.
     
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    but to be fair taping your wrists makes wrist locks ineffective, so MMA basically eliminates those as well despite the fact they are legal.
     
  12. teilatulitooth

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    alot of Aikido is very good but the majority is very un tested in actual combat.A finger lock that breaks a finger is gonna hurt like crazy but it is not gonna finish a real fight with a real fighter.Plenty of ufc guys have faught on with broken arms so a finger aint sh*t.Old martial arts are usually crap because real soldiers spent 80% weapons training to 20%hand to hand or more
     
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  14. Ogata

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    Well Im convinced, there is no reason to argue since your points are dead on flawless.

    Thats the thing though, the ufc was created to see which martial art works and which is the most effective. Now time has changed and rules have brought favoritism to different styles. My question is whether Aikido works and that modern mma has gone from self-defense/realism to sport fighting.
     
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    I love that a fighter could get dq'd for abusive language can you imagine if Nick Diaz got dq in one of his fights for that
     
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    aikido, lol
    while the guy is trying to bend your fingers you are choking his ass out

    Like Bas said "try to bite me while I triangle you and lets see how it goes"
     
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    Imagine Brawk trying to rip your pinkie toe off
    or grabbing your ear full bear, taking it home with him
    I reckon he could do it
     
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    There have been a few wristlocks in mma. Usually combined with an armbar.

    Royce on Akebono, and I think it ws GSP vs Hughes.

    IF a shoulder or an elbow are locked and isolated, but the guy doesn't tap, you can "gooseneck" the wrist. Not sure if it is legal, but I've seen it used to finish a submission that stalled.
     
  19. Truebeliever

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    Dude wake up. You ask for opinions but you refuse to listen.

    It doesn't work. Not ONE aspect of it is used in MMA. Nobody is using Akido wrist locks and breaks because they aren't effective.

    I know it's not what you want to hear, but it's the truth. It's time someone told you.
     
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    Aikido is the unrefined, un-evolved version of Judo. It doesn't work in a real fight against trained opponents:

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