If you think Francisco Filho never had problems with boxing - you need to take time and re-watch his K1 fights. You just admitted that Andy Hug had to cross train in boxing? Why? Because he had issues with boxing like most pure knockdown fighters do. You just provided examples contrary to your statements. Most Kyokushin dojos do not fight ichigeki rules. I was with IKO1 - we never did ichigeki rules & it was never in the syllabus. Kyokushin, shin karate, seidokaikan, oyama, Ashihara are all different. Yes they share same mother style but each is different. Shin Karate spar kickboxing rules - Kyokushin spars knockdown karate, Seidokaikan does both, Oyama does both & Ashihara have sabaki rules. I'm sorry but that is a big difference. No you are claiming that most Kyokushin dojos train ichigeki rules - I've been to quite a few Kyokushin gyms in the London area (as w - none of them have ever done ichigeki rules. It was never part of kyokushin syllabus. Knockdown sparring is. No offence but you sound very opinionated. Nearly everything you've said is opinions and you seem confused between kyokushin & shin karate - they are different. Are you going to tell me next Kozo Takeda was kyokushin as well? Your claim is that Kyokushin has no issues with head punching - the only examples you've given to prove this is Noiri (who is shin karate), Filho (who had very bad boxing), Hug (had bad boxing so he got boxing coach) - Pettas is the only guy you've mentioned but you didn't mention his first fight he got knocked out by Leko - then spent the next 2 years cross training in kickboxing more before going back to fight again. So all the examples you've given don't proof any point you've made. Also your claiming now most kyokushin gyms train kickboxing ichigeki rules - which is false. I don't hate Kyokushin - I use to do it. I realise the pros & cons of the style. Try not to let your emotions cloud your view of it.