Just rewatched Mousasi vs Weidman | Page 4

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Dozer ., Feb 8, 2018.

  1. rjmbrd Silver Belt

    rjmbrd
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    14,526
    Likes Received:
    8,789
    Location:
    New York, NY
    Post USADA Jacare has 3 first round stoppages and 1 loss, to Whittaker, who's beaten everyone.

    People seriously need to stop saying USADA Moose, you are casting aspersions on guys like Jacare who not only passed every test, are still winning nearly every fight.

    Jacare would crush Moose like he crushed him the first time.

    Weidman was in a career skid coming off two BRUTAL knockout / tko losses. Moose isn't the best, the best guys mopped the floor with the guys who mopped the floor with Moose.

    Just let it go already. Moose went to a controversial 29-28 decision win in Bellator FFS.
     
    #61
  2. frederick Black Belt

    frederick
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,566
    Likes Received:
    4,498
    Weidman has had a Hendricks level post-USADA decline.
     
    #62
  3. Towerworld Purple Belt

    Towerworld
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2015
    Messages:
    1,705
    Likes Received:
    1,122
    I think he's just fought and lost to better fighters, his wrestling looked amazing against Gastelum for instance.
     
    #63
    Enigma87 likes this.
  4. GordonMMARamsey Brown Belt

    GordonMMARamsey
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Messages:
    4,126
    Likes Received:
    3,096
    You realize the first time - Moose left Jacare unconscious right?



    God damn what a stupid post. "The best guys mopped the floor wit the guys who mopped the floor with Moose" - uh, who?
     
    #64
  5. ScoopSubMMA Brown Belt

    ScoopSubMMA
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2006
    Messages:
    3,004
    Likes Received:
    863
    Agree on the Weidman fight.

    Moose is too inconsistent to say he could beat any top MW anytime.
     
    #65
  6. sprucelees Silver Belt

    sprucelees
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2006
    Messages:
    12,421
    Likes Received:
    117
    Location:
    Canada
    wish he would have stayed
     
    #66
  7. Kirin Death Operator

    Kirin
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2013
    Messages:
    7,111
    Likes Received:
    6,579
    Location:
    *danger close*

    What the fuck...?
    The armenian assassin demonstrated that he's shored up that deficiency. He did a great job of not allowing himself to be held down and then worked his way back to his feet masterfully against one of the best wrestlers with one of the best top games in the division.
     
    #67
  8. Money509 A Level Poster

    Money509
    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    Messages:
    10,146
    Likes Received:
    11,889
    Location:
    WA State
    Nobody got destroyed in that fight.
     
    #68
  9. IloveTHIS Red Belt

    IloveTHIS
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Messages:
    9,372
    Likes Received:
    8,619
    Dude.
    Wow.
    Dude.
    Literally wow.
    omg.


    Did you even watch the fight? I'm not trying to sound like a dickhead but no, really, did you even watch the fight?

    Weidman was DONE before the knees. He was fully faded and in full on desperation mode. Weidman was gassed and Moose was fresh as a fucking daisy and turning it up. The tide was shifting fast as fuck. It was glaringly obvious how the rest of that fight was going to play out, knees or no knees.
     
    #69
  10. Bend NvR Break Standing still is actually moving back

    Bend NvR Break
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2015
    Messages:
    16,405
    Likes Received:
    16,300
    Location:
    Chicagoland, USA
    Weidman wasn't done, but he was definitely slowing down. Still doesn't mean he couldn't secure another TD and just ride Mousasi.

    Mousasi also came out in the second like a bat out of hell because he did not want to spend another round grappling with Weidman.
     
    #70
  11. IloveTHIS Red Belt

    IloveTHIS
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Messages:
    9,372
    Likes Received:
    8,619
    I'll admit I havent rewatched the fight since it happened, but am I misremembering Moose effortlessly stuffing Weidmans takedowns or getting right back up before Weidman got finished? Weidman was getting too gassed to secure them after the 1st round.
     
    #71
  12. ThoseAreMyShoes Blue Belt

    ThoseAreMyShoes
    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2016
    Messages:
    553
    Likes Received:
    553
    Thought Weidman was catching Mousassi a lot but nothing seemed to do much damage. Like Chris's power was gone.
     
    #72
    Superzorro likes this.
  13. Magx951 Brown Belt

    Magx951
    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2013
    Messages:
    4,915
    Likes Received:
    8,328
    Location:
    The Matrix
    Weidman really needs to move up to 205. After the IV ban he dropped like 6-7 lbs.
     
    #73
  14. Fadetoblack918 Purple Belt

    Fadetoblack918
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1,507
    Likes Received:
    1,484
    Location:
    NY
    Was rooting for Weidman in that one. Moose put on a really good performance though
     
    #74
    Franklin U. likes this.
  15. Workaholic Red Belt

    Workaholic
    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    7,729
    Likes Received:
    10,102
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    Moose has absolutely nothing for Whittaker

    Not a thing. God awful matchup for him
     
    #75
  16. Flokk Faux Belt

    Flokk
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2007
    Messages:
    10,239
    Likes Received:
    12,578
    It was a closer fight than TS suggests up until Weidman went all special ed.

    Moose gets shit for the almost-loss to Schlemenko. But all fighters stop looking slick when they have just the one eyeball. Moose got a broken orbital almost immediately. He could have quit. Instead he fought through it and won. Hespect.
     
    #76
  17. Flokk Faux Belt

    Flokk
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2007
    Messages:
    10,239
    Likes Received:
    12,578
    Yep. UFC shat the bed big-time. Again.
     
    #77
  18. rjmbrd Silver Belt

    rjmbrd
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    14,526
    Likes Received:
    8,789
    Location:
    New York, NY
    Sorry, the context was their first UFC fight.

    It didn't occur to me to note their fight that was - literally - ten years ago. I can correct my statement though - Jacare will crush Moose, just like he did the last time. There is a greater chance of Jacare slipping on a banana peel then losing via upkick again.




    Jacare (summarily smashed by the current best, Whittaker)

    Machida (smashed by Rockhold, Romero, Bruson, effectively everyone not named Moose)

    Uriah Hall (no citation needed)


    Literally, the best guys mop the floor, with the guys who mopped the floor, with Moose
     
    #78
  19. jrleclerc88 Blue Belt

    jrleclerc88
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2015
    Messages:
    620
    Likes Received:
    436
    It's a lhw vs a mw?
     
    #79
  20. Superzorro Goddess of War

    Superzorro
    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2015
    Messages:
    2,150
    Likes Received:
    1,756
    Location:
    Themyscira
    To be fair, the same could be said about Rory against Lima. I think fighters going to Bellator from the UFC, and to the UFC from Bellator are going to have problems either way because of the differences in testing in each organization.

    Machida has considerably declined since his fight with Mousasi. Mousasi beats the Machida that lost to Rockhold, Brunson, Romero, et cetera. Mousasi beat Uriah Hall, proving the ending of the first fight to be an unlikely outcome. And Jacare is just a bad match up for him.
     
    #80

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "fd5733925866a04e50edd70f38dfaa35"
monitoring_string = "603ac9fff68f23709f2a42bf5e29272b"