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Discussion in 'The War Room' started by whougonnacall, Jun 16, 2016.

  1. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    -talk regime starvatiion siege of waer in homs may be close to pay off , talk of deal being struck to let in aid.

    -fsa s front rebels resart daara hostilities with regime with huge vied , rebels at talks say no khazakstan meeting til ceasefire honoured

    - new defector arrrives in hague with hidden usb with 28k pics of murdered prisoners!
     
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  2. CEROVFC --------------------------------------------------

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    Shit that's crazy.

    Few questions:

    - would the humvee drive towards the other humvee in hopes of the other one shooting at the VBIED
    - would that something soldiers are trained to do?
    - is the footage from an ISIS drone?
    - would the strength of that blast kill the humvee personnel from sonic boom?
     
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  3. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    -dunno think they are just trying to get away
    -iraqi army? Id say almost everything they do isnt as a result of any formal training
    -yep
    -sonic booms wont kill ya unless ur fighting guile mate :)
    If u mean pressure wave then yes id say its possible
     
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  4. Videer Brown Belt

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    Hummers are not really heavily armed enough to take on the frontal armor of beefed up VBIEDs, it would have to be ones behind the VBIED shooting it.

    Who knows what an average Iraqi soldier is trained to do.

    Yes, footage is from IS drone.

    Dont have information about casualties from that strike but overpressure from blast is actually pretty crappy at killing.

    For an enlightening reading about IS car bombs I recommend: https://zaytunarjuwani.wordpress.co...d-adaptability-of-the-islamic-state-car-bomb/

    As a recent addition to their arsenal are up-armored SVBIEDs is painting to make them look like regular cars.

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  5. RIPWarrior Brown Belt

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    lol the ditch fucked him up. I wonder if it caused the explosion.
     
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  6. RIPWarrior Brown Belt

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    Here's some more drone VBIED footage. They're so effective but the IS can't really do much after. They still get taken out because they suck.

     
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  7. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    -twin blasts in damascus kill 40 and injure over 100 , regime reporting the casulties as 'pilgrims' 16 already identified online as milita members

    -rebels restart deera city camapign and an offensive on last regime enclaves in idib

    -isis reportedly attacking in deir during night with suicide vest members blowing up in regime tents

    - negotions underway for ghouta and waer pockets rebels leaving in return for food and aid to return to the areas

    -clashes still around al bab and close to manbij

    -huge blow as turkey blocks aid agency into syria that currently serves 10k plus people over row with u.s
     
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  8. KantoTerror Red Belt

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    It's more like humvee driver trying to save himself by driving towards another humvee who doesn't know what's about to happen. SVBIED would blow up on any target. they don't lock on a running one.
     
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  9. godking Purple Belt

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    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...ve-homs-beseiged-al-waer-170313134154656.html

    This war is almost over.

    I can't see this lasting more then a year two tops.

    The rebels are done.
     
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  10. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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  11. godking Purple Belt

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    At this point the Syrian goverment can't lose the war and the rebels can't win it.

    Isis is on the way out

    rebels factions are fighting each other.

    Barring massive US intervention that Russia's presence makes impossible the Syrian goverment simply has to hold on to the useful areas it controls and either wait the rebels out or slowly retake as much as they can.
     
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  12. Sauron Red Belt

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    I see whougonnacall has lost no steam with her steady output of bullshit; and she's still holding onto the dream of an Al Qaeda victory.

    Once the Iraqi's are done with Mosul they'll go for Deir Ezzor. The rebels are done. Iraq will wrap up quickly. Syria will still take some time. And at the end of it you'll have two states with extremely experienced military's to counter the likes of Saudi Arabia.
     
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  13. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    They have lost it..the idea assad could retake all of syria at this stage is beyond him and his backers , the rebellion continues with no realistic end in sight...


    Isis being on the way out hurts the regime way more than rebels though

    Rebels infighting is nothing new

    Russia presence doesnt make u.s intervention impossible , the u.s could kick russia outta there tommorow if they actualy felt like it ..they arent even remotely evenly matched
    Bear in mind The u.s has actively protected the regime to draw this out (manpads alone tommorow would end this)

    No the regime cannot 'wait this out' its manpower issues havent gone anywhere and both u.s and israel are pushing to remove the iranians etc who've been plugging the gap
    Nor does russia want this to drag on forever esp now they have openly admitted they cant foot the 250 billion plus reconstruction costs on top of the escalating cost of this adventure.
     
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  14. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    Lol great comming from the poster boy for dellusion
    The man whos great idea for it all was giant ethnic cleansing camapigns
    The man who wont let facts alter his version of how isis started
    The man whos ramblings narratives require the 30 to 40 million sunni population in that area to have a giant hive mind which at one stage is all rampant jihadi foaming at the mouth and the next cold blooded cash driven merc
    The man who know better than matthis himself on counter insurgecy


    Yes sauron we have missed your wisdom
    Enlighten us how to speed up the death of isis
    The ' iraqis '
    Do you mean the kurds you disparaged previously or the iraqi armed forces....the ones the iraqi goverment said isnt going into syria (airforce yes troops no)
     
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  15. AlexDB9 Yellow Belt

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    How the fuck does this shit still happen? I'm no military strategist but how about putting some people with RPGs on roofs or some shit. I can clearly see (not that I did not already know) how isis has taken over so much area in iraq and syria. These "soldiers" would rather run away and leave their equipment then engage the enemy. I mean haha one vbied was about 2 miles away and it just casually makes it way around the neighborhood and stops right between neatly parked humvees. Looks like the "soldiers" are just sitting in their vehicles waiting to die. What a fuck fest
     
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  16. godking Purple Belt

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    The Syrian goverment only has to hold the useful parts of Syria they don,t have to retake every part if Syria. Containment and forcing the rebels into idlib is enough.

    There is no scenario where the US is going to confront the russians directly over Syria and we both know it.

    Prediction the Syrian goverment keeps slowly pushing the rebels out off the parts of Syria that they want. The rebels are allowed to retreat to idlib which increases tensions between the rebels factions and puts a strain on supplies.

    The rebels probably take Raqqa.

    Iran exerts influence covertly instead of openly through iraqi "volunteers"

    And the rebel factions slowly bleed to death due to infighting and dwindling resouces.
     
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  17. Zankou Literally Shaking

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    Retards who don't know how to put up and defend a perimeter, that's how it happens. Some fucking barricades or something, or some goddamned mines, get your shit together. But that's modern Middle Eastern warfare for you --- retard jihadis driving suicide vehicles into incompetent troops. 30 years or so ago it was more acceptable to fall for this, nowadays there's no justifiable excuse.
     
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  18. GhostZ06 Gold Belt

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    they also still haven't figured out that you need infantry to work with tanks which has been a basic since WW2
     
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  19. Sauron Red Belt

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    lol. My predictions came true. It is you with the delusions of a rebel victory.

    Iraq will beat ISIS soon.
    Assad took Aleppo, and with each passing victory more troops are freed up for other areas.

    You continue to post what can only be described as the kind of propaganda that is found more commonly on "soft-ISIS" twitter accounts.

    You are such a bitter troll.

    We all know why ISIS started in Iraq, and now they're getting their just deserts. Power corrupts. No amount amount of sunni victimhood narrative is going to change that.

    Yes, the Iraqi's - officially (in some stated, and non stated capacities) and non-officially (PMU). When they help in Deiz Ezzor then the end-game for ISIS will start to come into view. Like it or not but they are not friends of the rebels in Syria. That should be abundantly clear to you. A country like Iraq is never going to cosy up to sunni-jihadists who they've lost so many lives to themselves.

    Your reflexive single quoting of Iraqi's is very much in-line with the GCC agenda of de-legitimisation of the Iraqi state i.e. shia's aren't loyal to Iraq. That time is over, my butt hurt little friend.

    I wouldn't get on your high horse about disparaging the Iraqi armed forces - considering you spent 80% of your time reporting on how useless they are, and borderline celebrating ISIS advancements. You may have changed your tune now, but it was me, long before fallujah, ramadi, tikrit, jurf etc, who said that the Iraqi's will turn this around and roll back ISIS. The kurds were always dependent on US and Iranian assistance. As a fighting force they are no better than any other group.
     
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  20. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    The useful parts are in isis hands (oil gas and large parts of the food producing regions....70% of wheat alone) the regime holds the majority of urban landscape but is reliant on foriegn troops (not permenant ) or unreliable conscripts( esp now the rebels will use more guerilla tactics )
    Plus their foriegn backers now know they cant afford to rebuild and must meet the west in the middle
    Overall by its very nature the regime cannot just sit back while theres still a rebellion...like all tyrannies its hold on what it has is fragile at best.

    No current scenario ...but my point being if one arised russia would do exactly squat to avoid a humbling short clash

    Prediction the rebellion rolls on and with no peace deal will take territory but also return to more guerilla style attacks (the bombing of the ss style torture chief recently)
    Israel has already told the russians they will be bombing hezbollah and iran more this year along the border
    The u.s will begin its squeeze on iran as soon as trump scandals die down
    Isis will push hard on deir el zour after mosul falls and either take it or 'retreat to the dessert' as they have stated they would.
    If the referendum goes edrogans way hel push for manbij

    All in all whats left of the actual regime (local militas and ss like intel agencies) will bleed to nothing , the foriegn elements backing it up will be pressured out by costs in both human and cash
    Russia has already recognised swathes of the rebellion as moderate and reached out to them...eventualy once the rebels swallow their pride and agree the naval base can stay russia will bow out to leave whats left of the increasingly toxic regime to justice
     
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