If there was no trash talk or drama.

Yes, but you need a mixture of both to spice things up.

Believe it or not even pro-wrestling has feuds where both guys are respectful and no drama every once in a while too.
Pro wrestling is just a stage show though. Drama makes sense there because it’s theatre, not an actual sport. You can’t compare the two .
 
all evidence suggests that viewership would go back to pre-TUF numbers.

the fighting isn't enough for most people.

don't be fooled by the vast # of people who say they don't care about the drama. it took a reality show to get most people interested in the sport. those of us who loved the sport pre-tuf couldn't support it. especially once the JMMA fad crashed and burned.

most people today who claim they would watch it anyway would fade away with the drama and shit talking.

and i'm not being insulting. most people who watch most sports aren't hard core fans. most people just want to be entertained. dingers are more exciting than 83mph junk pitching that yields 7 shitty infield singles and 1 run across 7 innings.

fact: a million people didn't buy Evans v Rampage because it was the best fight that year.
But TS isn't asking the average casual. The OP is asking Sherdogers, a very large proportion of whom are die hards.
 
I can't remember the last time I watched a fight live. Yes, sometimes, that kind of spoils things, but there's no way I can sit through all that bs between fights. I used to watch the next day and skip everything but the fights themselves, but I haven't even done that for 2 months or more. Losing interest and too busy I guess.
 
I would watch more. Because what would sell is actually the best fighting skills, while currently it's the drama. And I am interested in talented fighters because they make better fights, not shit fighters getting coverage because they are controversial.

MMA fans are trash, and this website is the scum below all the trash.
 
I
I watch MMA to watch fighting.

Drama is for the casuals.
agree. I notice the more a fan is into drama and shit talk, the less they usually know about actual fighting. The guy who can tell you every detail of a fighters trash talk twitter war... but doesn’t know the difference between a rear naked choke and a guillotine <{cruzshake}>
 
I do not watch the pre-fight Hype at all. I do not watch the weigh ins or the open workouts. The only hypeI see is the commercial kindthat happens during the event, And usually I will just put it on mute and do something else until I actually see the Fighters walk out. And yes sometimes I mute the commentary, depending on who’s doing it. I like the skill and art of fighting. That’s what thrills me. All the rest is just noise.

Riiiight....so what were you doing in these threads?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142291283/ <--Khabib hype thread where you make jokes about parking lot fights with dollies and hookers. Why are you in this thread and why do you know about Conor's shenanigans, if you don't follow pre-fight hype?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142293447/ <--here you're in a thread discussing Ariel's move to ESPN. Ariel Helwani is 100% drama reporter, he has zero knowledge in the technical side of fighting. Why do you follow him?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142291983/ <--here you're talking about Cerrone's unfriendly out-of-cage behavior.
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142291953/ <--here you call him a redneck douche. I thought all that out-of-cage stuff is noise to you? Why would you know or care how he acts outside of cages? Why do you call him a douche?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142283845/ <--here you talk about being a huge fan of a fighter's personality and following/rooting for them because of that, despite his actual fighting career never taking off. I thought you didn't care about non-fighting stuff? So much for that being noise!

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142315343/ <--and here you admit to watching A MANAGER on MMA Hour. That is the single biggest drama hype show in the entire industry. ZERO technical breakdown, 100% drama. On top of that you were clearly triggered by his behavior and called him an asshat.

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142352253/ <--oooh what are you doing crapping on a fighter in a TMZ thread about his street fights? I thought you don't care about that stuff?
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142349577/ <--and now you're shitting on his parental skills? That's their private life and none of your business.

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142350829/ <--Jones is an amazing fighter but his behavior makes him a garbage human? I thought you don't follow out-of-cage drama? So why so dramatic about Jones? All that stuff is just noise to you, no?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142350357/ <--you watch TUF coach drama? Why? You don't even watch Koscheck's fights outside of GSP, and yet you follow his TUF drama?? Why don't you skip to the fights? The detail you're describing...clearly you sat through all that shit, why?

I can keep going, but there's no point. You love drama as much as the next person, stop lying.
 
I do like a bit of drama when it comes to entertainment.

If there was no shit talking nor drama, we wouldn't even have little things; such as, shiny lights and Bruce Buffer screaming during the introductions. I think those little things make the UFC more exciting.
 
I would still watch but I personally enjoy the drama most of the time. It adds an extra dimension to the fights sometimes. When two guys have been shit talking and bad mouthing each other for months it gets me more hyped for who's going to win.
 
it makes the fights more interesting to me, makes it feel like there is more on the line
 
Riiiight....so what were you doing in these threads?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142291283/ <--Khabib hype thread where you make jokes about parking lot fights with dollies and hookers. Why are you in this thread and why do you know about Conor's shenanigans, if you don't follow pre-fight hype?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142293447/ <--here you're in a thread discussing Ariel's move to ESPN. Ariel Helwani is 100% drama reporter, he has zero knowledge in the technical side of fighting. Why do you follow him?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142291983/ <--here you're talking about Cerrone's unfriendly out-of-cage behavior.
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142291953/ <--here you call him a redneck douche. I thought all that out-of-cage stuff is noise to you? Why would you know or care how he acts outside of cages? Why do you call him a douche?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142283845/ <--here you talk about being a huge fan of a fighter's personality and following/rooting for them because of that, despite his actual fighting career never taking off. I thought you didn't care about non-fighting stuff? So much for that being noise!

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142315343/ <--and here you admit to watching A MANAGER on MMA Hour. That is the single biggest drama hype show in the entire industry. ZERO technical breakdown, 100% drama. On top of that you were clearly triggered by his behavior and called him an asshat.

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142352253/ <--oooh what are you doing crapping on a fighter in a TMZ thread about his street fights? I thought you don't care about that stuff?
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142349577/ <--and now you're shitting on his parental skills? That's their private life and none of your business.

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142350829/ <--Jones is an amazing fighter but his behavior makes him a garbage human? I thought you don't follow out-of-cage drama? So why so dramatic about Jones? All that stuff is just noise to you, no?

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/142350357/ <--you watch TUF coach drama? Why? You don't even watch Koscheck's fights outside of GSP, and yet you follow his TUF drama?? Why don't you skip to the fights? The detail you're describing...clearly you sat through all that shit, why?

I can keep going, but there's no point. You love drama as much as the next person, stop lying.
1. I work in the sport, so I have met many of these people
2. I watch the news , even if I avoid the hype stuff filters through.
3. Shitty personalities piss me off. In sports and in real life. A comment on that has nothing to do with hype.

Nice try though. How much time did you spend making that reply! That’s actually impressive
 
1. I work in the sport, so I have met many of these people
2. I watch the news , even if I avoid the hype stuff filters through.
3. Shitty personalities piss me off. In sports and in real life. A comment on that has nothing to do with hype.

Nice try though. How much time did you spend making that reply! That’s actually impressive

Back pedaling much?

1. You working in the sport in no way explains why you watch TUF drama or Ariel's drama hour. Those have zero relevance to actual fighting. You were clearly lying. You follow drama in this sport like everyone else.
2. Hype IS news in MMA. There's never a clear separation between MMA news and MMA hype/promotion. If you follow MMA news, you follow MMA hype. Again, you were lying.
3. So you react to fighter personalities and behavior out of the cage. Which means you care about drama and personalities, instead of treating them like noise. Liar.

Nice try though. Took me all of 5 minutes to figure you out.
 
But TS isn't asking the average casual. The OP is asking Sherdogers, a very large proportion of whom are die hards.
i disagree with this statement. the man-drama-queen runs strong through this crowd.

fact is, there are more threads about fighter talk than about fighting.
 
Ever since Connor, Brock and Chael had their big successes in comparison to others I feel like the number of fabricated "bad blood" story lines has gone way up. Dana rewards people who are a draw and the viewers respond to it so it's what we're getting unfortunately
 
i disagree with this statement. the man-drama-queen runs strong through this crowd.

fact is, there are more threads about fighter talk than about fighting.
Yeah, and it's usually the same 5 or 10 teenagers making and posting in them. Sherdog has 1000's of members.
 
Back pedaling much?

1. You working in the sport in no way explains why you watch TUF drama or Ariel's drama hour. Those have zero relevance to actual fighting. You were clearly lying. You follow drama in this sport like everyone else.
2. Hype IS news in MMA. There's never a clear separation between MMA news and MMA hype/promotion. If you follow MMA news, you follow MMA hype. Again, you were lying.
3. So you react to fighter personalities and behavior out of the cage. Which means you care about drama and personalities, instead of treating them like noise. Liar.

Nice try though. Took me all of 5 minutes to figure you out.
Yeah ok. Actually that’s the only episode of Mma hour I saw . I like watching post fight analysis and that manager just happened to be on there. I was like “who the fuck is this guy?”. I’m a human being obviously I talk about people but it when it comes to the actual sport I don’t need all the drama to be interested . But you have me all figured out apparently..<YeahOKJen>
 
Yeah ok. Actually that’s the only episode of Mma hour I saw .

"I've never stolen anything ever"
>Sees evidence
"Okay I've only ever stolen once"
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I like watching post fight analysis and that manager just happened to be on there.

>Post fight TECHNICAL analysis
>MMA Hour

Pick one. Ariel Helwani has zero technical knowledge in MMA. Nobody goes on his show for technical breakdowns. I mean, what was so special about that particular episode of the MMA Hour that you had to watch it, but skipped ever other episode of MMA Hour ever, of which there are hundreds? Doesn't make much logical sense, does it? Could it be you lied and are trying to cover it up and doing a really poor job at it? Just admit you watch a ton of MMA Hour for the drama and lied about it already. Digging that hole deeper isn't gonna help you.

Also, why did you watch TUF drama? Dodging the question much? You admitted to not even watching Koscheck's fights outside of him vs. GSP, and yet you clearly sat through his drama on TUF, given you're able to describe those in detail.

Could it be you have the hots for GSP and wanted to enjoy some out-of-cage GSP drama? Could it be you're lying when you said you consider that stuff noise? There's nothing wrong with having the hots for GSP btw, I do too, so why lie?
 
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