If DC dominates Stipe Miocic, what does that tell us about Jon Jones?

[Bjjpitbull8]

He's pointing out 3 steroid users that DC beat with ease, kind of negating your claim that Jones was only able to win because of steroids which is unfortunately a retarded narrative that is believed by way to many people.

Ask yourself this... If you started taking steroids right now would you be able to beat DC in a fight next year?

Of course not right, that absurd. So is thinking thats why Jones did. Steroids aren't magic, they are completely useless unless someone is also willing too put in the work and have the determination to be the best. You can't have one without the other.

Almost had to report you for being too logical.

 

[moogie101]

Kurt Angle clowned Brock backstage at a UFC event and DW offered him a contract on the spot. Yes Kurt is a former gold medal winner but he's giving up 80 pounds to Brock. Kurt turned the contract down saying it was a paycut and he's too old to switch careers..

Didn't happen like that at all.

Kurt certainly clowned Lesnar in a very famous story but it was at a WWE event back in 2003. Dana White was not there, nor has Dana EVER offered Kurt a UFC contract apart from a heavily rumoured spot on the Tenth TUF where Kurt allegedly failed the medical.

He was certainly an amazing wrestler & if the UFC would have been paying much bigger money after he won his Gold medal then he could have had a great career. But instead he went with the much bigger bucks in the WWE, although since then Kurt has repeatedly floated the idea of an MMA career but all that ever was about was getting himself some attention. Age & multiple serious injuries from both his amateur & pro wrestling careers meant that was always a non-starter.

The closest he's ever come to an MMA fight was playing Koba (based on Fedor) in the Tom Hardy film "Warrior", beating up Eddie Guerrero backstage after a Smackdown match went wrong & Daniel Pudner nearly snapping Kurt's arm like a twig.

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

DC will certainly be #1 p4p, but Jones beat him 2X. Does that make JBJ the goat?

Only lets us know how good DC is and that styles makes fights.

 

[Spidermine]

He was on some good shit.

 

[bad_k]

Yup.

You can cry as much as you want about how Jones was too pussy to go to HW or blame it on steroids, but he would've dominated a guy that is arguably one of the top 5 GOAT HWs if he beats Stipe.

With or without steroids?

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Didn't happen like that at all.

Kurt certainly clowned Lesnar in a very famous story but it was at a WWE event back in 2003. Dana White was not there, nor has Dana EVER offered Kurt a UFC contract apart from a heavily rumoured spot on the Tenth TUF where Kurt allegedly failed the medical.

He was certainly an amazing wrestler & if the UFC would have been paying much bigger money after he won his Gold medal then he could have had a great career. But instead he went with the much bigger bucks in the WWE, although since then Kurt has repeatedly floated the idea of an MMA career but all that ever was about was getting himself some attention. Age & multiple serious injuries from both his amateur & pro wrestling careers meant that was always a non-starter.

The closest he's ever come to an MMA fight was playing Koba (based on Fedor) in the Tom Hardy film "Warrior", beating up Eddie Guerrero backstage after a Smackdown match went wrong & Daniel Pudner nearly snapping Kurt's arm like a twig.

10 fights 150k. He was offered. Pay sucked so he walked.

Went up against Brock at a WWE event so you're right. Beat him 1-0 but the ropes saved him multiple times from what could have been 15-0 slaughter rule.

 

[Juice]

...that he takes Roids

Yea those Roids called Skill and Talent.

 

[boss429]

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on TRT Vitor?

Vitor is a bit of an anomaly. He was a killer before TRT but it did seem to turn him into a different kind of animal, legal TRT was a bit different though cause they could use it right up to aswell as during the fight without having to worry about cycling or failing tests

 

[Vegesus44]

That tells us that Jonny is even more of a pussy and cheat than we first thought.

 

[welcometohavoc]

But here is the problem. When he was dominating he was dominating in a time where probably just about every major contender was using. So that is basically an even playing field. People that don’t like Jones pretend like he was the only one using. We know that is not even remotely the case. In fact there are guys on his resume that are Known users and cheaters.

You can hypothesize and conjecture till you're blue in the face but the bottom line is Jones was busted, his opponents weren't.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

You can hypothesize and conjecture till you're blue in the face but the bottom line is Jones was busted, his opponents weren't.

Actually some of his past opponents were busted. Several times over. Do your homework.

 

[7.62x39]

PEDs win.

PED doesn't make you a more skillful fighter. Jones in general is just that much more skillful than DC anyway. I still got $$ on a clean jones vs a juiced DC.. Juiced or not, a head kick will do serious damage.

 

[number 9]

It tells that every fight is different

 

[The Schmoop]

It means that some fighters can’t achieve greatness with only their natural gifts. Only the true greats can. Jon Jones is not one of the true greats. It would mean that DC is. Regardless of what the record books say, Jon was so afraid or insecure in his abilities that he’d rather risk multiple test fails than face DC, or mma in general, with only hard work and his natural skill set. DC would be the greatest fighter of all time.

 

[SHAZAM]

That Jones is trash without steroids.

 

[Rea_ctor]

That Jon can get awesome steroids?

 

[ANIM4L]

Yea those Roids called Skill and Talent.

Nice try. It's called Turinabol, Clomiphene, and Letrizole and whatever else he's got flowing through his system.

 

[Bacco]

DC is going to lose and Stipe will get even more overrated

BTW peoples may think was just extra fat but ever looked to me that the cut to LHW affected a lot the power in his punches, i think fight DC at LHW it's not the same as fight him at HW

Also Jones was cheating (still LHW goat)

 

[IrritatedTomcat]

DC will certainly be #1 p4p, but Jones beat him 2X. Does that make JBJ the goat?

It will say "that's a strong man, made stronger with PEDs"

 

[IrritatedTomcat]

Yeah that's why Barnett/Mir/Big Foot all beat DC

You're comparing them to Jones? Wow.
You're too unreasonable to debate tbh, maybe it's just better to let you pretend they didn't help him and ignore you