I need some advice Sherbros.

[KeepingItReal]

@NoGoodNamesLeft

I cna catsually nurdstnd hwat e irwtes htough.

 

[owen_taggart]

I cna catsually nurdstnd hwat e irwtes htough.

Google Translate tells me this says, "I can actually understand what he writes, though."

 

[Ogata]

[This is long so I appreciate if you read through]

TLDR: Supervisor job in my long-time, current company but with "conditions" and a dick-swinging Karen. Or a non-supervisory job in a new organization in an "urban" town.

I'm trying to weigh out pros and cons between 2 jobs. (Mods if I may please request a poll, please?)

I've been with the organization since 2017. A new initiative began this year. Due to my experience, I was strongly encouraged to apply. I joined. They hired a new director and I was the only person "in house". The new director and I were close. He was a well dressed African American gentleman, very skilled speaker, and likeable. He was seldom present though. We hired a supervisor (who'd be my supervisor).

Each supervisor would have 5 employees under them. Being a veteran I was actually teaching a lot to my "superiors" who just joined.

Since he was seldom present the director parted ways with the org. He gave me a heart to heart about how valuable I was and how he somewhat was put on alert to keep an eye on me specifically!

My old supervisor (we'll call her Karen). She js short, loud, somewhat annoying, intelligent, and competent (crosses T's and dots I's).

She is the type who gets all the way off on the job. When I first started she used to always introduce herself to everyone as "the boss". Hi, I'm "his boss!" Instead of just saying her name... it was off-putting. She even used to call her staff her people or "one of mine," which she eventually stopped after people brought to her attention how culturally gauche it was. She eventually got a promotion and so much more power which can only make her ego worse!

She's unmarried, no kids (freezing her eggs soon), makes good money, bought her own house, probably doesn't even get laid. One of those women who puts everything into her career. Truth be told she probably gets off on berating me as a male (being black may not help). She likes to overwhelm herself with stuff and gets off on telling folks she's too busy and doesn't have time to sit with them.
Like anyone else, she isn't all bad. She can be friendly (albeit fake sometimes) shows genuine care from time to time, and like I said, is intelligent... the type of student who was probably a hall monitor or would remind the teacher to collect the homework.

Anyway, even in the short time, staff in this new initiative have come and gone abruptyl. I've been active in bringing staff in. We now have a small crew of recent college grads who look like a college diversity poster. They are a cute little clique. The new supervisor - Afrcian American woman and I get along very well.

Me. As some of yall already know. I have a masters, I'm a very good presenter, humorous, I am friendly/charismafic and one of those dudes who lightens up the office atmosphere. Although I tend to slip sometimes keeping track with too much crap on the calendar. I give a lot in terms of volunteering and creating stuff the company benefits from. Overall I'm very good at what I do.

After training so many new people and these new kids coming in I began to feel underutilized. My coworkers, recognizing my tenure and how good I am, kept asking why I don't go for the director job. I told them "Please, they didn't even offer me supervisor".

After consideration I went for the Sup role. I also got a job offer doing a similar job as my current one. However, that job paid as much as the supervisor one here.

I spoke to a board member that likes me. He counseld me and advised me to talk to our CEO. The CEO of our agency is also a big time politician. She is cool with me too. After some talking, she eventually calls our VP and tells them to give me a 3 month trial period.

The director, Karen, and VP woman sit me in the office. They tell me I do not have supervisory experience and they can give me a trial period but it would be a risk on both of our parts as the grant requires 3 years of supervising. They can move me down to my current position if I "don't make it". I have some official supervision experience (like a year) and in my role acted as the site supervisor during our evening programs. Which I didn't know why they wouldn't count. I also mentor all of the new staff very thoroughly.

I told the other job yes, but would cancel if I stayed here. The other job I wouldn't have to worry about supervising people but this job I can get the supervision experience (and also extra stress). Another benefit is that this one offers is a shitload of vacation time!!! It's absurd. But I can think of the other job as more or less same amount of work for better salary. The other job is also in the city (which I hate) I gotta look for parking, and it's a bit "hood".

Anyway. I've been thinking about it, talking to family/coworkers. Everyone is pretty split. With some saying: fuck them, take the new job! Or the fact that I went over their heads, they'll never let me pass the 90 days and I'll be demoted back to my current position.

Others saying: Nah, take the supervisor job here and ride it through, I can do it.

If I say no to this I'll be slapping the CEO (who advocated for me) in the face. If I turn down the new agency on short notice I'll also feel like a dick, but I gotta do what's best for me. A bird in the hand or 2 in the bush?

I appreciate the advice in advance.

Inb4: TLDR

I read the whole thing and look, I have met Karens of the word with redeeming qualities. Problem with horrible human beings who have redeeming quality is that they can really fuck up your mental landscape. They may not be doing it on purpose but hot and cold or mean and nice is extremely unhealthy characteristic to encounter.

I rather be around someone who is either nice or just an asshole because with a consistent asshole, you kind of tune it out because the volume stays the same and you just go on about your business.


You have mentored people that came after you and you have been a de facto leader and you deserve to be recognized for it. I can also vouch for your character because as a poster, you never attack anyone here, you listen to reason, you analyze the situation and you also mentioning having some experience as a preacher which means you have a voice to command respect and authority.

I say this because I am NOT trying to say what you should do but rather what and who you are and you must be recognized for it long ago and the importance of your contribution. I am not sure about the hood job location but its a disgrace whenever employers failed to recognize their MVP staff who are undervalued. That alone has irked me reading this whole thing.

For me, I would rather be around hood as oppose to a Karen. That is considering how hood the hood is. Karen's at some point were better people when they were younger and they become worse and worse human beings with age. So I am worried about the potential Karen supervisor descending further in to her volatile ways.

 

[west42]

First option, no question about it

Spoiler

I didn't read past the 3rd sentence in that wall of text

 

[plataoplombo]

With the first one, what's the next step after you've been a supervisor for a while?

 

[melvinj0]

Always go after the job that seems like it would make you happier, even if it means making less money (unless it’s going to ruin your life of course). I feel like the best life goal is to find a way to make a living that you also enjoy doing. I worked sooooo many shit jobs before I got into comedy and I was insanely depressed. Now there is still certainly desperation but at the end of the day it makes me happy that the we way I’m making money is also the thing I like doing, and at the beginning it made me no money at all, and now it’s making more money than any job I had before,

 

[davidlemonparty]

If you stay, I have a piece of advice I feel strongly about.
You need to clear the air with Karen about the skipping the chain of command piece. You gotta be blunt, yet suave and appeasing.
Get her in a room, lay it on the table, say it really on your mind and you need to clear the air, say it was an unfortunate happenstance and you didn't mean it to happen like it did, etc. Spin it so she feels OK and not threatened and you can turn a risk into a positive and the start of a new dynamic to that relationship. It is very endearing when someone opens up like that.
If you're as suave as you say, you can pull this off

 

[Alphaboy]

I read the whole thing and look, I have met Karens of the word with redeeming qualities. Problem with horrible human beings who have redeeming quality is that they can really fuck up your mental landscape. They may not be doing it on purpose but hot and cold or mean and nice is extremely unhealthy characteristic to encounter.

I rather be around someone who is either nice or just an asshole because with a consistent asshole, you kind of tune it out because the volume stays the same and you just go on about your business.


You have mentored people that came after you and you have been a de facto leader and you deserve to be recognized for it. I can also vouch for your character because as a poster, you never attack anyone here, you listen to reason, you analyze the situation and you also mentioning having some experience as a preacher which means you have a voice to command respect and authority.

I say this because I am NOT trying to say what you should do but rather what and who you are and you must be recognized for it long ago and the importance of your contribution. I am not sure about the hood job location but its a disgrace whenever employers failed to recognize their MVP staff who are undervalued. That alone has irked me reading this whole thing.

For me, I would rather be around hood as oppose to a Karen. That is considering how hood the hood is. Karen's at some point were better people when they were younger and they become worse and worse human beings with age. So I am worried about the potential Karen supervisor descending further in to her volatile ways.

Thank you, brother!

 

[Busgosu]

Thoroughly read. My advice: Yes, go for that gender swapping procedure.