still better control to staty on top then be on bottom trying to do submissions tho, easier for the guy to get out of as hold.
And easier still to scramble up, which is why Silva did it when he fought Sonnen, and why GSP would never have done it.
They absolutely did. By the AC.
When Silva was caught doing it BJM weighed in and said it was perfectly fine. GSP the actual corner/cutman did it, that is illegal. But it's 100% legal for the fighter to do it.
If this mistake never occurred, But really it had no impact on the fight and it was because the UFC cheaped out on cutmen making GSP corner do both.
silvas back being greasy would make it tough and easier for him to slip away but it wouldn't hurt his chances at holding a body limb and going for a sub you know what I mean. 2 different scenarios. GSP would assume hed be on top with bj trying to work the rubber guard as he was so famous for so a grease back would help him poster out of that, arms and hands no greasy makes it easy still to hold bj down.
that's a crazy rule, such a grey area I'm surprised more fighters don't take advantage of greasing themselves since it is perfectly legal as you stated
yea for a mutli billion dollar company that was a pretty stupid decision on their part.
He greased his chest and shoulders iirc.
yea that makes more sense be pretty hard to grease your own back haha I didn't even think when I wrote that out.
I could link the whole hearing but neither you, nor I, are going to listen to that whole thing again. GSP didn't "cheat", his team did. I get it. You may not think a little vaseline helped GSP but it wouldn't be illegal if it had no effect. That was Jackson, however, admitting that a "small amount" of vaseline may have been rubbed on GSP "accidentally". Hell, at least he admitted to it. You are defending a guy who isn't even defending himself.
The hearing is much more detailed. Here you've got him admitting to "unintentionally cheating". Go wipe some vaseline on your arm and then wipe it off with a towel and see if it is not a "factor". If it wasn't a factor, it wouldn't be illegal.
Like I said, maybe he gets out, maybe he doesn't. We know what happened when he was greased, how about when he isn't?
Sometimes, I think you are arguing just for the sake of arguing. EVERYONE has admitted that he was GREASED. It is not a case of "he didn't do it". It is whether or not he KNOWINGLY did it. You can blabber all you want to about yes/no but it is a FACT that Penn was cheated. Now, the debate is whether the "unintentional" cheating had any effect on the results or outcome of the fight. You can say "yes" or you can say "no" but you can't say the foul didn't occur.
False. Everyone admits they should have taken more care to ensure no grease was put on GSP and avoid the appearance of impropriety, and that it was improper to not wipe their hands thoroughly regardless of whether it made a difference.
Then quote it so I can see what you are talking about. If you can't source it, then don't say it.
