Camille Paglia: Transgender is end of a Civilization and helps ISIS

[sleepwalk]

I don't see it, if anything I see the opposite. The military and police are usually portrayed positively in film and television from what I see and even shitty, illegal behavior by them gets justified like the abuse of probable cause in the case of cops.

And again, outside of overly dramatized cop shows, I see the opposite.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

It's so funny how right wingers find deep respect for academic qualifications when they mention Steve Bannon went to Harvard or Jordan Peterson is a Professor (I actually like Peterson just fine, but don't have the raging intellectual hard on for him that many young kids seem to have)...

But the rest of the time, academia is leftist cultural Marxist propaganda!?!?

Do we care about going to Yale? Or not? Which is it? Because for every one conservative intellectual you find with "academic qualifications," I'll find a dozen who are left of left. For the record, I think there are some extremely smart conservatives, but in general, smarter people tend to lean liberal. Many studies by (guess who) academics bear this out.

As to the content of the OP, I'll give it a watch later. It sounds interesting. I should point out, though, that many societies have shit the bed without effeminization. Pretty sure the 90% reduction in Native American population had more to do with small pox than trannies. Also, if your "hyper masculine" leaders lead you into genocidal conflict, yeah, that doesn't bode so great for civilization either.

Evolve, people.

Well, those who hate academia are pretty much people who self-out themselves as fools.

It's not surprising. Historical fact is typically not as heart-warming as pop culture.

 

[Makani]

Any society that gets ruined by weirdos pretending to be a different gender probably sucked to begin with.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Camille Paglia is an old school feminist. She was very interested and studied androgyny in Yale. What she found out through history surprised her.
She saw that the civilizations which were accepting androgyny (including homosexuality, transgenderism, crossdressers) were markers of the end of that civilization.
The move towards androgyny occurs in late phases of culture, as a civilization is starting to unravel.
In Greece statues of once masculine naked dudes have been replace by wet noodles. Happened in Hellenistic empire, Rome, and Wiemar Germany.
They may think it is sophisticated, but it is a culture that no longer believes in itself.

Then you get people who are convinced of the power of heroic masculinity on the edges whether they are the Vandals or the Huns or ISIS barbarians, mass on the outsides of culture ready for conquest.

So yes, propelling gays/trannies/etc to positions of magical creature respect is what is helping ISIS gain followers and all the other outsiders who still have REAL MEN who want to take your shit.

In the USA we still have an abundance of real men, and we need to set things right before our civilization (the best ever) is taken over by a bunch of assholes.
Not saying to go around killing people, but we have to say this is NORMAL and this is ACCEPTABLE. You can have any freak you want on, but keep it in private and we will not elevate it to being equal to being normal.

Also of note is ending "Weimar Germany"--- what replaced that? Oh right, the NAZIS (national SOCIALISTS), now we know what the LEFT is aiming for.

NOTE: She is going by HISTORICAL FACT not silly ideology.



You see Paglia’s point. She said this in one of her 1990s essays; it’s still applicable:

^ this in an interesting quote by Camille and I was having the same idea.

What have gays contributed to civilization? All I have is art, but some of my favorite artists are gay.
Thing is that gays need to be in a culture that tolerates them and accepts them if they are not announcing it as equal lifestyle to heterosexuality.
Gays cannot have offspring (through gay sex) and therefore need to infest an already successful culture to continue through the culture and even maybe enhancing that culture to a degree.


As an add-on

Now, let's get back to
Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Ok, so the punishment for basically everything morally wrong was death, including things like Adultery.

Now, God was building a people with Israel. Seems to me that God was not being cruel to gays, but knew that acceptance of Androgyny (including gays and trannies and crossdressers) lead to the downfall of a state or civilization or empire.

So, if he is trying to build a People, it seems like this was a pragmatic law.


CLIFFS: We need masculine men to be the norm.

I disagree with Camille Paglia on many issues, sometimes fervently. But she is an intellectual force to be reckoned with and is generally fair and logical. I've read quite a bit that she has written and admire her.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Well, those who hate academia are pretty much people who self-out themselves as fools.

It's not surprising. Historical fact is typically not as heart-warming as pop culture.

There's a lot to hate about the current state of academia in the West, primarily its overt politicization and corresponding narrowness. To me, a true intellectual should assail many trends in the academy, much like Paglia herself does so often.

 

[ReAnimator Reagan]

I disagree with Camille Paglia on many issues, sometimes fervently. But she is an intellectual force to be reckoned with and is generally fair and logical. I've read quite a bit that she has written and admire her.

I trust her on the topic of this thread because she did her thesis and was very enamored of androgyny before starting this study.
I think she has some right on stuff to say about the transgender craze going on.

But she does support Bernie which is batshit crazy.

There's a lot to hate about the current state of academia in the West, primarily its overt politicization and corresponding narrowness. To me, a true intellectual should assail many trends in the academy, much like Paglia herself does so often.

As peterson says, the marxists have taken over the humanities.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Well, those who hate academia are pretty much people who self-out themselves as fools.

It's not surprising. Historical fact is typically not as heart-warming as pop culture.

If it's based on nothing but anti-intellectualism then I would agree. If it's based on genuine concern from observing troubling trends on college campuses and how this is affecting society, then I would agree with those who are speaking out against this. Postmodernism has been allowed to fester for too long at universities unchecked and it has now become the dominant voice on campus and the sane people are intimidated into silence by the crazies.

 

[Islam Imamate]

And again, outside of overly dramatized cop shows, I see the opposite.

Maybe we see what annoys us. For me that's media that excuses shitty behavior by cops and the military and for you its media that denigrates them.

 

[sleepwalk]

Maybe we see what annoys us. For me that's media that excuses shitty behavior by cops and the military and for you its media that denigrates them.

This is half of nearly all arguments.