Camille Paglia: Transgender is end of a Civilization and helps ISIS

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    Camille Paglia is an old school feminist. She was very interested and studied androgyny in Yale. What she found out through history surprised her.
    She saw that the civilizations which were accepting androgyny (including homosexuality, transgenderism, crossdressers) were markers of the end of that civilization.
    The move towards androgyny occurs in late phases of culture, as a civilization is starting to unravel.
    In Greece statues of once masculine naked dudes have been replace by wet noodles. Happened in Hellenistic empire, Rome, and Wiemar Germany.
    They may think it is sophisticated, but it is a culture that no longer believes in itself.

    Then you get people who are convinced of the power of heroic masculinity on the edges whether they are the Vandals or the Huns or ISIS barbarians, mass on the outsides of culture ready for conquest.

    So yes, propelling gays/trannies/etc to positions of magical creature respect is what is helping ISIS gain followers and all the other outsiders who still have REAL MEN who want to take your shit.

    In the USA we still have an abundance of real men, and we need to set things right before our civilization (the best ever) is taken over by a bunch of assholes.
    Not saying to go around killing people, but we have to say this is NORMAL and this is ACCEPTABLE. You can have any freak you want on, but keep it in private and we will not elevate it to being equal to being normal.

    Also of note is ending "Weimar Germany"--- what replaced that? Oh right, the NAZIS (national SOCIALISTS), now we know what the LEFT is aiming for.

    NOTE: She is going by HISTORICAL FACT not silly ideology.



    You see Paglia’s point. She said this in one of her 1990s essays; it’s still applicable:
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    ^ this in an interesting quote by Camille and I was having the same idea.

    What have gays contributed to civilization? All I have is art, but some of my favorite artists are gay.
    Thing is that gays need to be in a culture that tolerates them and accepts them if they are not announcing it as equal lifestyle to heterosexuality.
    Gays cannot have offspring (through gay sex) and therefore need to infest an already successful culture to continue through the culture and even maybe enhancing that culture to a degree.


    As an add-on

    Now, let's get back to
    Leviticus 20:13
    13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    Ok, so the punishment for basically everything morally wrong was death, including things like Adultery.

    Now, God was building a people with Israel. Seems to me that God was not being cruel to gays, but knew that acceptance of Androgyny (including gays and trannies and crossdressers) lead to the downfall of a state or civilization or empire.

    So, if he is trying to build a People, it seems like this was a pragmatic law.


    CLIFFS: We need masculine men to be the norm.
     
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    Funny how some posts you put zero work into get ten pages, yet ones that are actually relevant to stopping the demise of western civilization die a horrible death.
     
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    Roman and Greek empires were diddling children, before their rise, during their rise, and during their fall.

    Reasoning seems specious at best.

    Corruption is the source of collapse 9/10 times.
     
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    They brought up like 3-4 civilizations (great ones admittedly) and act like that's representative of the hundreds maybe thousands of civilizations that existed (and not to mention that the culture didn't just vanish, just that the wealth & power declined)

    Nothing lasts forever is pretty much the only rule, there are many reasons for decline. Poor decision making by the rulers, environmental change(drought, depletion of lands), conquest, etc
     
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    What a stupid fucking thread. If one thinks gay people and dudes in drag was responsible for the fall of Empires, they show a complete lack of education in history.

    Maybe people dont give a shit about this thread because you brought up Leviticus, a rare book that actually reaches the insanity of the Quran.

    Goo job........
     
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    I like how OP says that he doesnt advocate killing gays, buylt does point out that god says he should be killing gays
     
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    You understand I am straight quoting from Camille Paglia who did her thesis at YALE on androgeny???

    Now, think about the masculine men out there in different societies. What do masculine men hate more than almost anything? Effeminate men. If masculine men see the "effies" then they think "wow, we can just go take all they shit, naw mean?"
    Now, it is true that ISIS shows the proliferation of gays/trans to their countries and tells the people "you do not want to become like this"--- Queer Eye for the Straight Guy is ISIS propaganda recruitment tool.

    I said that moral crimes during the theocracy/coming together of the formation of Israel were all punishable by death.
    I also linked what Camille Paglia said about Androgeny being linked to the end of a civilization and how it might make sense that God would want to discourage that on a civilization he was in the process of building....but lets not forget that we act out our morality and most likely a great portion of The Law were the rules that those people were living by before Moses wrote them down.

    Again, it is an expert who studied androgyny...she was very pro-androgyny and through what she found out as a grad student at YALE lead her to her conclusions. Your conclusions are led by nothing.

    They also drank water and took shits.

    What is most important that it is the rise of accepted androgyny that shows that THE PEOPLE NO LONGER BELIEVE IN THEIR CIVILIZATION
     
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    I'm a masculine male, and I dont hate effeminate men. I was friends with am extremely effeminate gay guy in highschool, and my cousin is gay.

    Maybe you're just a hateful bitch who is not confident in his masculinity.

    And by the way, I would find it hilarious for you to tell my gay cousin he's not masculine, considering he spent his first year after high school thai boxing in thailand, and is the best shot with a rifle I have personally seen.

    You're arguing on the side of ISIS, bitch.
     
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    Hard to say whether it's correlation or causation, but there's something there perhaps. Presently, it seems like the modern left, largely unwittingly among the masses, and perhaps mostly wittingly among the elites, is bringing on the collapse of Western society. God save us all.
     
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    Are you saying gods law is wrong?
     
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    If men behaving like women helps ISIS, the TS is the next al-Baghdadi.
     
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    Who cares about the LGBTQ stuff. They can't have babies for the most part so they will fade away.
     
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    Umm, gay MEN cant have babies, yet lesbian WOMEN still can, via surrogates. It's the same it's always been.
     
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    It's so funny how right wingers find deep respect for academic qualifications when they mention Steve Bannon went to Harvard or Jordan Peterson is a Professor (I actually like Peterson just fine, but don't have the raging intellectual hard on for him that many young kids seem to have)...

    But the rest of the time, academia is leftist cultural Marxist propaganda!?!?

    Do we care about going to Yale? Or not? Which is it? Because for every one conservative intellectual you find with "academic qualifications," I'll find a dozen who are left of left. For the record, I think there are some extremely smart conservatives, but in general, smarter people tend to lean liberal. Many studies by (guess who) academics bear this out.

    As to the content of the OP, I'll give it a watch later. It sounds interesting. I should point out, though, that many societies have shit the bed without effeminization. Pretty sure the 90% reduction in Native American population had more to do with small pox than trannies. Also, if your "hyper masculine" leaders lead you into genocidal conflict, yeah, that doesn't bode so great for civilization either.

    Evolve, people.
     
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    Yea but it is not happening very often. Most lesbians, gays, transgenders, etc never have children
     
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    Alan Turing, the father of computation, was gay.
     
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    Just for a little insight, TS quoted Leviticus as some real wisdom, presaging our current situation.

    Analyze these passages from Leviticus, and please argue that this is the product of a wise man, not a deranged psychotic.

    Leviticus 20:9
    If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.

    20:13
    If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.

    Leviticus 11:20-22
    All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper.

    "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)

    "...and the swine, though it divides the hoof, having cloven hooves, yet does not chew the cud, is unclean to you." (Leviticus 11:7)

    "But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)

    "They (shellfish) shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination." (Leviticus 11:11)


    What sober fucking minds you take dictation from......
     
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    Please provide verifiable information that proves this.
     
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    Where did I say it was wrong. I said the punishment changed.
    1st off Jews stopped that after the Temple was destroyed for sure.
    Now, I know Christianity much better on why stoning to death is no longer a punishment....it is straight from the mouth of Jesus.

    "So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." - Jesus
    - this was in regards to a woman accused of adultery....and hate to tell you but the punishment for adultery in the Pentateuch was death. Adultery being worse than being gay. And Jesus says don't stone her because we are all sinners.

    How am I acting like a woman? Not sure if quoting Camille is your issue or maybe you just don't know what a woman acts like. Not agreeing with effeminate males. But I was say what I have to say face to face with you. But you wouldn't. So I wouldn't be throwing out accusations.

    Are you gay?

    1) so you say
    2) yeah, it is the hateful motherfuckers that want to take your shit. these are people that will go to war to take your shit and kill you. you best believe that those masculine men will see effeminant male worship as a weakness and the strong attack the weak...especially if they are an invading force.

    I am just taking something that a famous expert in the field said and quoting it.

    If what they say makes sense? Yes, I tend to take their word. Now, if there is legitimate evidence against them, well then we have to see what is what.
    Why do you think Ben Shapiro destroys everyone???? Because he is telling the truth. It is verifiable.

    Now, what makes Camille interesting is 1) she is a smart broad (even though she likes bernie) 2) she was PRO-ANDROGYNY. She loved that shit. So it is so easy to accept stories that support your worldview, but when your research leads you to a truth that is contradictory to your worldview, then that can be a stronger statement of the truth.
     
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