Being "liberal"... what's it REALLY mean now a days?

It wasn't acceptable because of the high standards these communities have as a result of how good the coal industry was to them. But they're not the only ones who have to face poorer circumstances than their fathers. I guess you could say they need to pull themselves up by their boot straps and stop waiting for Trump to bring coal back.
And this kind of gets to the point: should anything be done? The markets have kind of spoken.
 
as the conservatives would cry out

shit thread dump... right @HereticBD

No, the thread title isn't combative, and can actually have a discussion based around it.

If the thread was titled "This Forum Is nothing but a Bunch of Libtard Snowflakes!", then it would be dump worthy, as was the other one.

Were you deeply invested in that other thread, or are you simply whining because it got dumped like I suggested it should?

Oddly enough, you've only posted in both threads to troll and whine. Must be why you've been banned like 9 times.
 
And this kind of gets to the point: should anything be done? The markets have kind of spoken.
The job retraining programs are there to help such people, they're just swatting away a hand that's trying to help. A stronger social safety net could make the transition easier as well. But unfortunately that's not what they voted for. I'm not saying they have to vote Democrat but if they're going to vote Republican at least they shouldn't vote for someone peddling snake oil like Trump.
 
No, the thread title isn't combative, and can actually have a discussion based around it.

If the thread was titled "This Forum Is nothing but a Bunch of Libtard Snowflakes!", then it would be dump worthy, as was the other one.

Were you deeply invested in that other thread, or are you simply whining because it got dumped like I suggested it should?

Oddly enough, you've only posted in both threads to troll and whine. Must be why you've been banned like 9 times.
its ok chief you only cried to dump that thread 4 times..
 
its ok chief you only cried to dump that thread 4 times..

*Suggested appropriate action be taken to shit thread

Anyways chief, quit tagging me over bullshit, and take it to the OT like you were told if you want to cry about me. Quit derailing threads with your tears.
 
I looked up the numbers and came up with that. If additional votes came in that flipped it, fine. And what I'm talking about is how in this particular election, you think it's good that some Americans have less say in governance. Had it gone the other way, you would be saying it's bad. You're not arguing out of any principle; you're just hacking it up.



Incorrect. Do the math with the source I found (the one that shows up on a Google search without sending to a link). I grant that there could be a better source. Not arguing with that. Broader point is that it's a stupid way to evaluate the election that applies both ways. "If you take out areas that Candidate A won by a lot, Candidate B would have won."

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Okay we'll start off by subtracting the difference between your source and my source for california seeing as the New York Times had more votes for each party

Trump 4,483,810 - 3,916,209 = 567,601

Hillary 8,753,788 - 7,362,490 = 1,391,298

Now lets subtract that from my original figures

Trump 53,815,968 - 567,601= 53,815401

Hillary 53,221,860 -1,391,298= 51,830,562

Trump wins by an even larger margin
 
*Suggested appropriate action be taken to shit thread

Anyways chief, quit tagging me over bullshit, and take it to the OT like you were told if you want to cry about me. Quit derailing threads with your tears.
just like a repub twisting things to their own "version"
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Behold the oh so tolerant right lol


It means you're a pussy

And a snowflake

Someone who loves jacking off criminals and terrorists.

If you boil it down to it's simplest traits, you either hate men or take it in the ass.

The more and more hardcore liberals we see getting busted for abhorrent behaviour, the more I think that liberalism attracts those who have something dark to hide and want to "atone" for it by taking other people down.
 
One feature, of many, is to shamelessly resort to calling everyone who isn't liberal racist or fascist at the first opportunity.
 
The posts before and after my above post ....perfect timing lol
 

What's your point here? I noted that I'm not against LGBT or gay pride parades, but I'm against grown men waving around inflatable dicks in front of kids. I also saw a youtube video on these boards of a young pre puberty boy doing the splits and twerking with his shirt off in cut off jeans at a gay pride parade, while a bunch of grown men cheered him on.

While this makes up a very small portion of the people celebrating, there are lines and those lines get crossed with this sort of behavior. This was my point; and don't try to paint me as a bigot, because I brought up something uncomfortable that happened in your community.
 
What's your point here? I noted that I'm not against LGBT or gay pride parades, but I'm against grown men waving around inflatable dicks in front of kids. I also saw a youtube video on these boards of a young pre puberty boy doing the splits and twerking with his shirt off in cut off jeans at a gay pride parade, while a bunch of grown men cheered him on.

While this makes up a very small portion of the people celebrating, there are lines and those lines get crossed with this sort of behavior. This was my point; and don't try to paint me as a bigot, because I brought up something uncomfortable that happened in your community.

You were complaining about something you never saw or experienced, which you stated yourself you hate.

If an inflatable dick is a big deal, i don't know how you leave your house, let alone log onto the internet. There is no shortage of boobs and ass on tv and in advertising. Everyone knows what a dick is. Don't pretend that anyone is being shell shocked by a balloon. My point again is that what you describe is still tame compared to many mardi gras parades. If it is an issue and you feel your kids can't handle it, don't bring them. If you dont have issues with other parades and celebrations, it does beg the question "are you ok with the lgbt community just as long as it is just not too gay and in your face?"

If some kid dancing effeminately is a big deal to you, don't have your kid dance like that. There is no shortage on youtube of kids dancing to mtv music videos. You don't have kids i assume. Otherwise, you would know they do anything for attention and it doesn't have any deeper meaning. My daughter thinks punching people in the balls is hilarious. Same with farting on people, singing "i like big butts and cannot lie", and a host of other stupid stuff.
 
Liberal means normal. Do you believe in low taxes, gun rights, and cannabis should be legal? Congrats you are now a Liberal. Most people do not strictly believe in all Democratic, Republican, etc values and normally mix and match, which is normal.
 
Do you believe in low taxes, gun rights, and cannabis should be legal? Congrats you are now a Liberal. Most people do not strictly believe in all Democratic, Republican, etc values and normally mix and match, which is normal.

Sounds more like libertarianism
 
There really isnt much of a difference between Liberal and Libertarian. Libertarians are just closer to Anarchists wanting minimal government.

Classic liberal and libertarian. Today's liberal has very little to do with classical liberals.
 
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