After 25 years of MMA.. One thing is painfully apparent...

[rb3b3]

wtf are you from the year 2000? The cage is universally known for help getting up when on the bottom, wrestlers are stood up within 10 secs if they arent advancing after takedowns, and they now have phones where you can go on the internet and learn things "smart phones.

EXACTLY how i see it too! I totally agree with you!/

 

[MacDiz]

Frank Dux would've dominated all these pussy wrestlers at the Kumite...

 

[rb3b3]

Frank Dux would've dominated all these pussy wrestlers at the Kumite...

LOL

 

[Bimbo]

wtf are you from the year 2000? The cage is universally known for help getting up when on the bottom, wrestlers are stood up within 10 secs if they arent advancing after takedowns, and they now have phones where you can go on the internet and learn things "smart phones.

You get credit for takedowns
You get credit for controlling an opponent on the ground
You can give elbows and cut above the eyes, which makes it much harder for the opponent. Who get to give those elbows? The ones who have better control. Who has better control on the ground? Wrestlers.
Fights continue on the ground forever as long as it looks busy (looks, not even is, you can just give a punch now and then = ground and pound = wrestlers)
Cage helps wrestlers because there are no corners so they don't get caught by strikers, in the other hand the cage help you to take down oponents

 

[HHJ]

Its not painful,its beautiful

 

[rb3b3]

wtf are you from the year 2000? The cage is universally known for help getting up when on the bottom, wrestlers are stood up within 10 secs if they arent advancing after takedowns, and they now have phones where you can go on the internet and learn things "smart phones. Ufc rules are 100 percent geared towards strikers.

If anything, because wrestling is soo boring, i would say they are at a disadvantage if anything and yet they still dominate this sport and have been for over 20 years now.

 

[xHeadx]

every kid who ever fought his brother knows that if you can get your opponent down and get on top of him, youre virtually unstoppable.

Then you could apply the deadly technique of "why are you hitting yourself"

 

[90 50]

The only reason wrestlers dominate UFC is because of the UFC rules. They heavily favour wrestlers. The cage heavily favours wrestlers as well.

Bring in all strikes on the ground and the landscape changes imo.

 

[hot carl]

If the ufc or athletic commissions start carding for inactivity, this might change. But until that happens, wrestlers will have an edge.

That being said, one trick ponies won’t be successful. If wrestlers can’t close the gap or get the takedown, they struggle.

Striking proficiency is necessary.

 

[chinarice]

what are u talking about??? although gsp didnt have a wrestling background, one can argue he was the BEST wrestler in the history of the ufc! He dominated wrestlers with his wrestling... it was truly amazing! GSP won the majority of his fights by WRESTLING!!!! WAKE UP!

lol you aren't going to stop a guy from outwrestling you without having defensive wrestling. You have to have skipped to full potato to think otherwise.

 

[hot carl]

Bring in all strikes on the ground and the landscape changes imo.

That’s a good point.

Knees to the head or if they allow all strikes to a downed opponent things will change.

 

[bad mojo]

Bring back stomps and soccer kicks, even playing field for everyone. Let's see how much one is willing to pay for a failed takedown.

 

[chinarice]

And he is one of the best MMA wrestlers himself.

Yup but you can use wrestling solely as a defensive tool. That is exactly what Chuck did almost his entire career.

 

[mkt]

The only reason wrestlers dominate UFC is because of the UFC rules. They heavily favour wrestlers. The cage heavily favours wrestlers as well.

As opposed to the streets...where strikers don't have to worry about a hard takedown on concrete or headbutts, fish-hooks, 12/6 elbows and all the other things wrestlers can't do in MMA.

Overall, MMA gives strikers more advantages than they normally have in an unsanctioned fight or street brawl--including ref stand-ups.

 

[90 50]

Bring back stomps and soccer kicks, even playing field for everyone. Let's see how much one is willing to pay for a failed takedown.

Yep, wrestlers had much less of an impact on pride than they do in the UFC.

 

[5thDimensionMMA]

After 25+ years, it is painfully apparent that fighters with a wrestling background have continued to dominate this sport. Who wouldve ever thought that wrestling which was never really considered a martial art, would be the absolute BEST background a fighter can have in any mma discipline.

Maybe in another 25 years, Fighters will develop a style that will be a nightmare for ALL fighters who excel at wrestling.

Jiu jitsu should beat wrestling.

No ones BJJ is on par with their wrestling to get a submission over a dominant wrestler.

 

[chinarice]

You are not a very bright individual, GSP only became dominant after learning to wrestle.

You aren't very bright. You seem to think you're going to stop a wrestler from wrestling you without using wrestling.

There is no one in the history of MMA that has done this. None, zero, zilch.

You know you can use wrestling defensive only, right? Remember that Mohawk guy from the LHW division that did it for years? Did he dominate using offensive wrestling? Did he stop wrestlers from wrestlefucking him? He sure did.

Next time, I hope you get the chance to give me insight on something but I won' hold my breath.

 

[90 50]

As opposed to the streets...where strikers don't have to worry about a hard takedown on concrete or headbutts, fish-hooks, 12/6 elbows and all the other things wrestlers can't do in MMA.

Overall, MMA gives strikers more advantages than they normally have in an unsanctioned fight or street brawl--including ref stand-ups.

With upkicks legal Silva would have ko’d cheal and weidman with ease

 

[Bimbo]

As opposed to the streets...where strikers don't have to worry about a hard takedown on concrete or headbutts, fish-hooks, 12/6 elbows and all the other things wrestlers can't do in MMA.

Overall, MMA gives strikers more advantages than they normally have in an unsanctioned fight or street brawl--including ref stand-ups.

12/6 elbows and knees on the ground (both banned in UFC) are perfect defences AGAINST wrestlers.

 

[ice9]

You get credit for takedowns
You get credit for controlling an opponent on the ground
You can give elbows and cut above the eyes, which makes it much harder for the opponent. Who get to give those elbows? The ones who have better control. Who has better control on the ground? Wrestlers.
Fights continue on the ground forever as long as it looks busy (looks, not even is, you can just give a punch now and then = ground and pound = wrestlers)
Cage helps wrestlers because there are no corners so they don't get caught by strikers, in the other hand the cage help you to take down oponents

this is really dumb lol
What youre saying is that wrestling is the favored martial art in fighting. I totally agree with, but you need to learn about the cage and how its used to stuff take downs and used for wall walking.