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Man, I guess right now
1. Ran
2. Aguirre, The Wrath of God
3. Army of Shadows
4. The Wages of Fear
5. Chungking Express
Man, I guess right now
1. Ran
2. Aguirre, The Wrath of God
3. Army of Shadows
4. The Wages of Fear
5. Chungking Express
I know that there are lot of GOAT-tier movies out there, but this is challenge for you. Let's narrow it down to your top 5.
Not your "favorite 5", but your top 5 movies ever in terms of quality or how great, memorable, and effective these films are to you. Don't put movies you haven't watched!
Late Spring
Barry Lyndon
Come and See
Ran
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
Man you guys don't get the difference between objective quality of craft and "I like this"No love for Fight Club?
That can't possibly be objective.Man you guys don't get the difference between objective quality of craft and "I like this"
Fight Club might be in my top 25, and is an excellent EXCELLENT film but when we're narrowing down the 5 best films every made in terms of craft and achievement? Nah.
yes. There is objective perspective of quality. Angles, arcs, structure, color, sound. Yes, we appreciate them differently, but the objective nature of the craft is not always up for debate. There's this weird cognitive dissonance with people in the modern age when it comes to things like art it seems.That can't possibly be objective.
Total, utter bullshit. You CANNOT say QUALITY is OBJECTIVE. You CANNOT say the QUALITY of ANYTHING cannot be up for DEBATE. I've never read a more bullshit post in all my life. On any forum. About anything. christ, that kind of completely irrational nonsense just pisses me off.yes. There is objective perspective of quality. Angles, arcs, structure, color, sound. Yes, we appreciate them differently, but the objective nature of the craft is not always up for debate. There's this weird cognitive dissonance with people in the modern age when it comes to things like art it seems.
I'll give you an example:
I HATE Gone With the Wind. I fucking can't stand that stupid fucking movie. However, I listed it in the top 5 of Greatest films ever made. The technicolor, scope, acting, period style wardrobe, underlying threads to characters, general premise, emotive moments and characters...all very hard if not impossible to match in cinema. That is objective. It is the truth.
Subjectively, however, I do not like it. There is taste and preference and there is also objective quality. The deep focus used in CK (Yes i'm aware Ozu was the pioneer of it, but Kane had better lighting), is objectively profoud, innovative and almost unreachable. I also find that movie INCREDIBLY borin and pandering.
I like Clockwork Orange more than 2001 but it's not a debate which one was crafted better.
oh.Total, utter bullshit. You CANNOT say QUALITY is OBJECTIVE. You CANNOT say the QUALITY of ANYTHING cannot be up for DEBATE. I've never read a more bullshit post in all my life. On any forum. About anything. christ, that kind of completely irrational nonsense just pisses me off.
Google the fucking word objective. (of a person or their judgement) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. FACTS! FACTS! FACTS! FACTS are objective. Mathematical FACTS! Scientific FACTS! Historical FACTS! You're gonna seriously try and tell me the deep focus in Citizen Kane is objectively PROFOUND?! Gimme a fuckin' break!
Im not just gonna try, I'm actually going to state it.Google the fucking word objective. (of a person or their judgement) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. FACTS! FACTS! FACTS! FACTS are objective. Mathematical FACTS! Scientific FACTS! Historical FACTS! You're gonna seriously try and tell me the deep focus in Citizen Kane is objectively PROFOUND?! Gimme a fuckin' break!
Citizen Kane and Blade Runner are two of most disappointing movie experiences. Not because they were bad, but because they were just good.There's no way this doesnt become a Citizen Kane thread btw
I cannot BELIEVE how you cannot see how fucking RIDICULOUS that is.Im not just gonna try, I'm actually going to state it.
I cannot BELIEVE how you cannot see how fucking RIDICULOUS that is.