You cannot be the greatest fighter of all time unless you went to HW

[exHeavyHippie]

Great logic, so MM can't be the goat because he doesn't want to be as fat as you, TS, and face fighters twice as tall as him? You are really something.

MM wouldn't beat 90% of the heavyweights on Bellator or UFC rosters.

two questions
1.)why do weight classes exist?
2.)why do we play the p4p game?

 

[Ananth]

why only p4p? p4p is a metric made up to compare smaller fighters to bigger fighters. Fedor fought in the biggest class (at least recognized weight class, I mean Super HW does exist).

I meant Fedor could have been a LW and still would have won the LW strap. Hes the most skilled fighter I've ever seen. Happens that he was also a HW, so naturally hes the greatest fighter ever imo.

 

[90 50]

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[Andreh]

I never said this, but always has a first time. This is one of the most stupid things I've ever read. Stop it, shame by others, please...

 

[90 50]

that's not what he is saying. He listed two semi-retired figthers that are obviously past their prime. What he is saying is take the "best ever" LWH, MW, WW and put them in with the best HW of all times. who would win? 99.9% it's the heavyweight. If GSP wanted to be known as the best in the world he (according to OP) should have proven he could fight a heavy weight.

He should fight Cormier next, that would win the argument.

He’d have to super hulk again like with bisping but I don’t think his guts can take it.


Instill think his plan was to fight Cormier at lhw after bisping but his body said no obviously.

I think he got up to over 205 before the bisping fight was announced. Some of the pictures of him floating around while retired like the one by the pool he looks every bit of 205-210

 

[cmw43]

The best HW's have almost always been blown up LHW's.

Fedor, Cormier, Crocop, Nog, the list goes on and on.

I'm convinced that a guy like Gus, or Jones would do well and a guy like Rumble would starch most of the division if he moved up.

Rumble couldn't even finish Arlovski at HW and he's been KOd about 10 times.

 

[90 50]

Great logic, so MM can't be the goat because he doesn't want to be as fat as you, TS, and face fighters twice as tall as him? You are really something.

This is correct he cannot be the absolute Goat, he can be the p4p goat, but not pure goat.

That’s why they have the p4p thing to begin with.

 

[90 50]

MM wouldn't beat 90% of the heavyweights on Bellator or UFC rosters.

two questions
1.)why do weight classes exist?
2.)why do we play the p4p game?

90%?? He probably wouldn’t beat ANY much less 10% of them.

 

[Lay N Pray 101]

HW is arguably the worst weight class in the UFC right now

I think LHW is worse. Other than Jones and Gus, who else is there?

 

[exHeavyHippie]

90%?? He probably wouldn’t beat ANY much less 10% of them.

That is a very fair assessment. I try my best to not deal with absolutes. I probably would have been safe using my standard 99.9%.

 

[gunsblazingmode]

Fully agreed with TS.
Fedor at his prime would have beat any man on the planet,and thats what i call a fucking p4p best mma fighter in the world.

Ok if you dont wanna bulk yourself, just fight at your own weightclass against a guy who fights at his own,even if he is bigger than you.
And if you say thats not fair,but what about cutting 30-40 lbs like khabib does ?

 

[exHeavyHippie]

Ok if you dont wanna bulk yourself, just fight at your own weightclass against a guy who fights at his own,even if he is bigger than you.
And if you say thats not fair,but what about cutting 30-40 lbs like khabib does ?

When it comes down to it, weight classes weren't started to protect the bigger fighter.

 

[kuka45]

Can someone ban TS for his stupidity?

Why? He is right. HW is most fair weightclass, almost no weight cutting, one mistake and you're dead.
DC winning HW title, even with eyepokes etc., vs Stipe, is better than everything Jon Jones did, including two wins vs DC.
There is reason why Reem is most efficient striker in UFC.
P4P exisiting only because they can't generate HW stars, and they can go with bs called p4p to hype fighters like Conor, who had no chance vs small welterweight called Khabib.

 

[kuka45]

HW is king, more people will think like this, more sponsors, better fighters, athletes.

 

[TheVenom]

Considering Jones has embarrassed the current defending HW champion twice...

 

[Kingz]

 

[gunsblazingmode]

When it comes down to it, weight classes weren't started to protect the bigger fighter.

Fighters at LW arent protected from Khabib who cuts 40 lbs (yes he does and admits it himself)
And because of such shit called cutting weight wrestlers who are used to it can abuse rules and get better results, which is numbavanbullshit

 

[ElCasca]

Good thing that Jones already KO'd the HW king

 

[fortheo]

No, but you can't be the goat if you fight at LHW. That division is shit. Mighty mouse had more competition at 125. Fucking anythony Smith and Corey Anderson are contenders. Chael sonnen had a title shot at LHW. It's a joke division.

 

[kuka45]

Good thing that Jones already KO'd the HW king

good thing 205 lbs version of DC would be killed by 250 lbs version of DC