Yan vs O'Malley round by round stats

[Trax]

these stats do not affect scoring in any way

I know the judges don't have access to the stats during the fight, my question is purely aimed at stats, not at the outcome of the fight nor judging.

 

[Busgosu]

UFC wants Sean to win.
UFC acts as commission in Abu Dhabi and manages judging.
UFC provides official stats.

 

[DS66]

"Significant strikes", for these purposes, are all strikes at distance, and power strikes in the clinch/on the ground.

The other, "non-significant" strikes, are those little shots in the clinch/on the ground. Like when someone's holding someone down on the ground and throws like 8 little punches in a row to the body. Those are not considered significant strikes.

The reason almost all of O'Malley's strikes were considered "significant strikes", is cause pretty much everything he threw/landed was when they were distance striking. Whereas Yan landed a bunch of clinch strikes and strikes on the ground which would be considered "non-significant" strikes.

You can agree or disagree with the way its categorized, but that is the reason for the discrepancy here. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter a ton anyways as the judges do not have access to these stats and they have no impact on the outcome of the fight.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Control time with no significant damage does not cancel out being outstruck on the feet. Tippy tap punches on the ground are not significant. It was a close fight. Yan took the 2nd clearly. Sean took the 3rd clearly. The first was close but I scored it for Sean.

 

[pride_rules]

Control time with no significant damage does not cancel out being outstruck on the feet. Tippy tap punches on the ground are not significant. It was a close fight. Yan took the 2nd clearly. Sean took the 3rd clearly. The first was close but I scored it for Sean.

i was avoiding saying anything. but you sir are not alone

round one.
sean seemed to be splitting yans guard often and touching him up pretty damn good. td made it close. but the get up and scramble and more work on the feet....
1-sean close but criteria agrees
round 2
yan bopped sean real good. i thought he was going to quit for sure, he didnt. then did enough to make it not a 10-8
round 3
easy round to score with the criteria.
damage from effective striking was 100% sean
also the dr would have stopped the fight had he got a look at the cut. 2 more round we were looking at a round 3 tko stoppage 5 mins dr stopping on the stool
so sean easily wins the round based on fight ending damage from effective striking

 

[Trabaho]

i was avoiding saying anything. but you sir are not alone

round one.
sean seemed to be splitting yans guard often and touching him up pretty damn good. td made it close. but the get up and scramble and more work on the feet....
1-sean close but criteria agrees
round 2
yan bopped sean real good. i thought he was going to quit for sure, he didnt. then did enough to make it not a 10-8
round 3
easy round to score with the criteria.
damage from effective striking was 100% sean
also the dr would have stopped the fight had he got a look at the cut. 2 more round we were looking at a round 3 tko stoppage 5 mins dr stopping on the stool
so sean easily wins the round based on fight ending damage from effective striking

Dude that cut was not bad

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Dude that cut was not bad

his whole eyebrow is a cut. it’s literally like a vagina

 

[dipstickjimmy]

his whole eyebrow is a cut. it’s literally like a vagina

What kind of Vagina?

 

[Joshuaace]

I had one question regarding the UFC fight stats and that is, who is really collecting/making it apart from UFC?

No one. The UFC is paying the cheapest guys they can to run the counter and the control timer. Not even union, probably making 1 guy run the strike counter AND the control timer.

 

[Joshuaace]

his whole eyebrow is a cut. it’s literally like a vagina

Finally! You know, with damage being an indicator of effectiveness..........that guy has a Canyon on his forehead.

 

[kingmob6]

Finally! You know, with damage being an indicator of effectiveness..........that guy has a Canyon on his forehead.

damage is not going to sway the fight decision, when the rest of the scoring criteria is pointing the other way.

 

[pride_rules]

Dude that cut was not bad

 

[pride_rules]

his whole eyebrow is a cut. it’s literally like a vagina

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

damage is not going to sway the fight decision, when the rest of the scoring criteria is pointing the other way.

what scoring criteria? o’malley outstruck yan by a lot, which is the prominent scoring criteria

 

[Eiger]

damage is not going to sway the fight decision, when the rest of the scoring criteria is pointing the other way.

Damage trumps all in scoring. The other criteria isn't even considered unless a judge cannot conclude one fighter had an advantage in dealing damage.

This is how judges are instructed to score a fight. Everything from control time, octagon control, etc. - it's all irrelevant unless a judge determines damage is equal

 

[goOb]

The look on Sean’s face and actions after round 3 told me even Sean thought he lost. The most damaging strike was the one that cut Yan. The rest of the fight Yan was pressing the action and landing shots himself plus 6 takedowns with an entire round worth of time having top position or ground control. That’s a damn horrid decision if I have ever seen one.

 

[Joshuaace]

damage is not going to sway the fight decision, when the rest of the scoring criteria is pointing the other way.

According to the criteria rounds 2 and 3 were crystal clear. Round 1 comes down to whether you value heavy leg kicks plus 1 td more than crisp straight punches to the face, and a couple front kicks to the body. I favored the punches over the heavy leg kicks. I see the argument for the leg kicks by Yan though. Anyone that used "control time" in their equation to score the round did so incorrectly though.

 

[kingmob6]

Damage trumps all in scoring. The other criteria isn't even considered unless a judge cannot conclude one fighter had an advantage in dealing damage.

This is how judges are instructed to score a fight. Everything from control time, octagon control, etc. - it's all irrelevant unless a judge determines damage is equal

the fuck it does

Effective Striking/Grappling

“Legal blows that have immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute towards the end of the match with the IMMEDIATE weighing in more heavily than the cumulative impact. Successful execution of takedowns, submission attempts, reversals and the achievement of advantageous positions that produce immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute to the end of the match, with the IMMEDIATE weighing more heavily than the cumulative impact.” It shall be noted that a successful takedown is not merely a changing of position, but the establishment of an attack from the use of the takedown. Top and bottom position fighters are assessed more on the impactful/effective result of their actions, more so than their position. This criterion will be the deciding factor in a high majority of decisions when scoring a round. The next two criteria must be treated as a backup and used ONLY when Effective Striking/Grappling is 100% equal for the round.

Impact –

A judge shall assess if a fighter impacts their opponent significantly in the round, even though they may not have dominated the action. Impact includes visible evidence such as swelling and lacerations. Impact shall also be assessed when a fighter’s actions, using striking and/or grappling, lead to a diminishing of their opponents’ energy, confidence, abilities and spirit. All of these come as a direct result of impact. When a fighter is impacted with strikes, by lack of control and/or ability, this can create defining moments in the round and shall be assessed with great value.


read the fucking rules boy.

 

[Eiger]

the fuck it does

Effective Striking/Grappling

“Legal blows that have immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute towards the end of the match with the IMMEDIATE weighing in more heavily than the cumulative impact. Successful execution of takedowns, submission attempts, reversals and the achievement of advantageous positions that produce immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute to the end of the match, with the IMMEDIATE weighing more heavily than the cumulative impact.” It shall be noted that a successful takedown is not merely a changing of position, but the establishment of an attack from the use of the takedown. Top and bottom position fighters are assessed more on the impactful/effective result of their actions, more so than their position. This criterion will be the deciding factor in a high majority of decisions when scoring a round. The next two criteria must be treated as a backup and used ONLY when Effective Striking/Grappling is 100% equal for the round.

Impact –

A judge shall assess if a fighter impacts their opponent significantly in the round, even though they may not have dominated the action. Impact includes visible evidence such as swelling and lacerations. Impact shall also be assessed when a fighter’s actions, using striking and/or grappling, lead to a diminishing of their opponents’ energy, confidence, abilities and spirit. All of these come as a direct result of impact. When a fighter is impacted with strikes, by lack of control and/or ability, this can create defining moments in the round and shall be assessed with great value.


read the fucking rules boy.

I have. Here is a walkthrough explainer for you. It covers the passage that you cited, and much more.



To clarify, when I used the term "damage", I'm referring to "effective striking/grappling".

 

[Trax]

Successful execution of takedowns, submission attempts, reversals and the achievement of advantageous positions that produce immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute to the end of the match, with the IMMEDIATE weighing more heavily than the cumulative impact.” It shall be noted that a successful takedown is not merely a changing of position, but the establishment of an attack from the use of the takedown.

Can you interpret this part to see if I got it correctly... Because people are saying that takedown means shit now, if you don't do anything with it, establish position GnP, sub attempt etc.