Yan vs. O' Malley - A Balanced Take

[Masturbin]

Yan is better everywhere.

Sean is worse Cory with a bit more power.

Yan should destroy him.

 

[krelianx]

The punch that O"malley reckons he landed happened in the first and was to the wrong side. Munhoz fought and won the round.
O'malley poked him in the eye as Pedro was coming in to close distance. O'malley was losing at range to the shortest reach in the top 10 and he knows it.
That's why he took a fight with a guy like Yan before he loses to the lower ranked guys and gets booted out of the rankings permanently.

The right eye was poked. The left eye that was shut was the result of the punch from the first round.

 

[Filthy Phil]

A very balanced take, I think.

If anything, I can see O’Malley winning by decision unless Yan gets active from the start. Yan has shown time and time again that he is willing to go slow in rounds 1 and 2. If O’Malley uses his jab, feints a lot, and stays defensive when it matters I think he can maintain a lead going into the 3rd. I don’t see Yan getting finished though

 

[Shotcy]

I agree with most things. To stoned to elaborate on what I don't.
I think Suga will hurt him early but Yan will come back to win by tko or decision

This forum was refreshing.

 

[maximus__]

The right eye was poked. The left eye that was shut was the result of the punch from the first round.

The fight was stopped following an 'illegal" eye poke. Who cares if he landed a shot 2-3 mins prior in a round he still lost.
The reason the fight was stopped was due to the eye poke. O'malley couldn't deal with a legal strike from his opponent vs Chito, fell on his arse and then got TKO'd in 20 secs.
Imagine talking shit about your opponent after fouling them:


Only person who quits in fights is O'malley... He has form.

 

[maximus__]

Pedro admitted the punch in the first fucked his eye up, and Pedro didn't land a single punch on Sean in the entire fight. Sean was in control of that fight from start to finish.

https://ok.ru/video/4032434014735?fromTime=213
You know what happened straight after that punch? O'malley landed a groin shot. That was his most significant strike of the fight...
Who cares about a punch 3 mins earlier when it was an illegal eye poke that stopped the fight. O'malley fouled him once in each round, lost the first round and then has the nerve to come out and talk shit about him after being down a round.
Full fight is out there. Munhoz started to pressure and O'malley didn't like it. Fingers straight into the eye.
https://boxingvideo.org/sean-omalley-vs-pedro-munhoz-full-fight-replay/
O'malley with those whopping 7 head strikes each round in a fight he was losing...They even credit all of Sean's glancing shots but discredit anything Munhoz throws.
From memory they even score the nut shot as a sig strike.

O'malley was the one who took the easy way out. He put his fingers into Pedro's eyes because he didn't like the pressure that was coming at him.
He was out struck(at distance) by a guy he had 5 inches of reach on, who then started to pressure forward once he had the timing. O'malley panicked, fouled him and then proceeded to talk shit about him.

I wonder what his excuse will be when he gets KO'd this time.

 

[old school 2]

The fight he won ?

Apparently you looked at his record but not the fight. Aljo got his ass beat just like Matt Hamil did against Jon Jones.he may have the disqualification victory but he definitely wasn’t winning.

 

[Shilajit]

Dislike for O'Malley colors people's perception a little too much, so I'm going to try to just cover the obvious points.

O'Malley's clear advantages in these fight are his range, height, and striking accuracy. He is a very coordinated striker who works best at tip range, who throws great combinations from different angles at great speed, can throw from his back foot, and who uses a lot of feints and mixups extremely well. He tends to fare better against less mobile targets who are at a clear speed and range disadvantage, like Moutinho, where he can style off and chain combinations or use his speed advantage to land counters. In his last fight, Pedro adopted a mobile strategy, to move in and out of range, avoiding the boxing exchanges, and poking with leg kicks that while mostly checked also added up. O'Malley had trouble finding his range, even if he did manage to land a few good punches, including one that shut Pedro's right eye. Upon rewatching I thought he won that round. He is exceptionally good at chaining strikes and finding the counter punches, and avoiding head strikes.

Yan is even faster, has better movement, and a much more polished striking game, not to mention speed, than Pedro. He works at his best moving in and out with fast short combinations. Nothing particularly fancy, just tenacious, fast, and precise. He has a big reach disadvantage, but he moves in and out very well, and tends to find his range and pick it up as the fight moves forward. He will probably move laterally a lot and frustrate O'Malley, who will have to try to find his range against a much more mobile target than ever before. While O'Malley generally has a speed advantage, against Yan this might not be the case. Propensity for injury might be a factor, but it's impossible to factor in such things. Neither fighter seems to opt for wrestling offensive, though both have good takedown and submission defense.

The thing with O'Malley is that he is in love with the idea of becoming a KO artist like Conor or Anderson, while he should grow into a more dynamic MMA fighter like DJ or GSP, who could change gears mid fight if something was not working. His BJJ is actually surprisingly good, but he rarely has alternative gameplans and always seems to prefer to strike. He needs to get his ego in check, and realize styling off with strikes won't always be available as he fights the higher level competition moving forward, if he wants to be consistent.

I think this is a difficult fight to call; far more than people are making it out to be, though obviously it is an enormous step up in competition for Sean. I'm going to go out on a limb and say O'Malley shocks the world.

probably the best and least biased take i've seen here, well done sir.

Omalley being underrated reminds me of Izzy before he won the title, or even entered the top 10. People get in their emotions whenever a brash, confident, skilled fighter emerges and they seem to lose all semblance of rationality.

Most people here also just seem to suck at analysis and rely more on records than a technical breakdown of abilities. Very simple minded and fueled by emotion.

 

[Shilajit]

Yan is going to kill him with leg kicks and body kicks.

I used to be very high on O'Malley and predicted he would make easy work of Munhoz. Despite the narrative he has built, he lost almost every second of that fight. He just couldn't get anything going. It was a legitimate punch that caused Munhoz to quit but it was also a fluke injury.

Yan is one of the most talented strikers we have seen in the UFC. He's also more well rounded than O'Malley.



Styles make fights and Sterling was obviously a difficult fight for Yan. However, if Yan had fought O'Malley just after Sandhagen, I think he would've been a -1000 favourite and rightfully so, imo. Yan is still that guy. He's not old, he hasn't taken any serious damage, I still believe he has complete confidence in himself.

Although a very solid fighter, O'Malley definitely thinks he is a lot better than he is.

fans think hes a lot worse than he actually is more than anything.

Wonderboy said he's one of the most impressive strikers in the sport and someone to watch years back.

It only seems to be fans with these kinds of takes. The fighters and analysts aren't sleeping on him.

Even Aljo praised him.

 

[Reaperman]

Vera destroyed him, and in my opinion Munhoz was winning the fight before the eye poke. I have no idea how he gets to fight Yan after his last performance. Yan should tune him up. His boxing is much crisper, and he has fought and finished higher caliber fighters than O’Malley has. If O’Malley finishes - or even decisions Yan, then I will accept that he is the real deal. Right now it just seems the UFC is giving him a push he doesn’t deserve. He seems very delusional about his skill set to be honest…..

 

[Guy LeDouche]

This is the case of manufactured “talent” versus true talent.

With a guy like Yan you can see immediately the high level of technique and skill in his fights. It’s blatant. Someone like Omalley struggles against guys like Mountinho who he had to get gifted a finish against.

 

[djason1988]

Dislike for O'Malley colors people's perception a little too much, so I'm going to try to just cover the obvious points.

O'Malley's clear advantages in these fight are his range, height, and striking accuracy. He is a very coordinated striker who works best at tip range, who throws great combinations from different angles at great speed, can throw from his back foot, and who uses a lot of feints and mixups extremely well. He tends to fare better against less mobile targets who are at a clear speed and range disadvantage, like Moutinho, where he can style off and chain combinations or use his speed advantage to land counters. In his last fight, Pedro adopted a mobile strategy, to move in and out of range, avoiding the boxing exchanges, and poking with leg kicks that while mostly checked also added up. O'Malley had trouble finding his range, even if he did manage to land a few good punches, including one that shut Pedro's right eye. Upon rewatching I thought he won that round. He is exceptionally good at chaining strikes and finding the counter punches, and avoiding head strikes.

Yan is even faster, has better movement, and a much more polished striking game, not to mention speed, than Pedro. He works at his best moving in and out with fast short combinations. Nothing particularly fancy, just tenacious, fast, and precise. He has a big reach disadvantage, but he moves in and out very well, and tends to find his range and pick it up as the fight moves forward. He will probably move laterally a lot and frustrate O'Malley, who will have to try to find his range against a much more mobile target than ever before. While O'Malley generally has a speed advantage, against Yan this might not be the case. Propensity for injury might be a factor, but it's impossible to factor in such things. Neither fighter seems to opt for wrestling offensive, though both have good takedown and submission defense.

The thing with O'Malley is that he is in love with the idea of becoming a KO artist like Conor or Anderson, while he should grow into a more dynamic MMA fighter like DJ or GSP, who could change gears mid fight if something was not working. His BJJ is actually surprisingly good, but he rarely has alternative gameplans and always seems to prefer to strike. He needs to get his ego in check, and realize styling off with strikes won't always be available as he fights the higher level competition moving forward, if he wants to be consistent.

I think this is a difficult fight to call; far more than people are making it out to be, though obviously it is an enormous step up in competition for Sean. I'm going to go out on a limb and say O'Malley shocks the world.

It's yan's fight to lose anyway you spin it. He might sleepwalk the first 2 rounds and lose a decision, but if he chooses to fight he's better in literally every metric. O'Malley does have a huge reach advantage, but Yan's defense is perhaps the most underrated thing about him. The man is almost impossible to hit clean.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

If Yan pisses away the first 8 minutes, he could certainly lose a 3 round fight. But, I have a hard time actually picking O’Malley. I’d love to see it, but don’t think it’ll happen.

If losing to Aljo in the rematch isn’t enough to make Yan start quicker, I’m not sure what would. Him and his team need to understand that.

It should be Yan’s fight to lose. Start quicker, and don’t make any major errors, or get DQ’d, and he should win. At least on paper.

 

[Youtried]

One of the judges gave it to Sean

Yeah judges are wrong all the time, but this is hardly the thread to discuss that.

 

[krelianx]

Vera destroyed him, and in my opinion Munhoz was winning the fight before the eye poke. I have no idea how he gets to fight Yan after his last performance. Yan should tune him up. His boxing is much crisper, and he has fought and finished higher caliber fighters than O’Malley has. If O’Malley finishes - or even decisions Yan, then I will accept that he is the real deal. Right now it just seems the UFC is giving him a push he doesn’t deserve. He seems very delusional about his skill set to be honest…..

I think to say Vera destroyed him shows bias beyond reasoning, so I will not engage, thanks.

 

[krelianx]

It's yan's fight to lose anyway you spin it. He might sleepwalk the first 2 rounds and lose a decision, but if he chooses to fight he's better in literally every metric. O'Malley does have a huge reach advantage, but Yan's defense is perhaps the most underrated thing about him. The man is almost impossible to hit clean.

Yes, Yan is very good at moving away from harm's way, and if Pedro gave Sean a hard time finding his range, reason tells us Yan could present bigger problems. Then again, Yan did also find some difficulties dealing with Aljemain's long and unorthodox striking during the first two rounds of their first fight. Sean is very unorthodox, and much more polished in fundamentals and striking abilityin general, so he could also present problems for Yan. He throws from different angles, throws many combinations, is very lanky and evasive, uses lots of feints, changes stances, switches... and he is very accurate. This is much more intriguing than most morons would like to think.

People saying "Butz O'Malley hasn't beat anyone omg Vera and Pedro rkd him lol he beats only cans" are children.

 

[corrupted]

It's all gonna come down to how much pressure Yan brings early on and how Sean handles it.

 

[corrupted]

Apparently you looked at his record but not the fight. Aljo got his ass beat just like Matt Hamil did against Jon Jones.he may have the disqualification victory but he definitely wasn’t winning.

He wasn't getting beaten like Hamil was. He wasn't winning, but he wasn't getting battered eithter

 

[XociDe]

fans think hes a lot worse than he actually is more than anything.

Wonderboy said he's one of the most impressive strikers in the sport and someone to watch years back.

It only seems to be fans with these kinds of takes. The fighters and analysts aren't sleeping on him.

Even Aljo praised him.

Well yea, it's a bit of both. I just don't see any holes in Yan's game that O'Malley can exploit. He is better everywhere. I think Yan is still the best 135er in the world.

O'Malley looks flashy at times but I mean, he needed a favorable ref stoppage to get Kris Moutinho out of there. He looked lost against Munhoz. He really has no impressive wins (flashy KO's against nobodies are not impressive imo).

I guess we'll see.

 

[ayaandirtyboy]

Any moron can be right and still be a moron. It's not what you say, but how you argue for it.

If yan destroys Sean then He pretty much proved His point.
Dont be a coward and lay all your Chips on the table.