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Yan is a perfect example of a well rounded striker

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  1. Kono dio da! Giorno's Father

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    Hate yan. And I'll probably never like him. But he's super dope. Much better than i thought. He ragdolled sterling like it was nothing. He's well rounded.

    People talk about izzy and say he's well-rounded, simply because he's defended takedowns well but as we saw in sterling vs yan and izzy vs jan... There is so much to fighting than striking, jiu-jitsu and sprawling.
    Like before the jan blachowicz vs izzy fight wasn't anyone curious about izzy's wrestling (offensive and defensive) and his ground game? That's always been a weakness but whenever anyone brought it up people got mad at op.

    Sure izzy and petr yan are completely different fighters with different body types and styles etc, but part of the reason I never fully bought into stylebender is because I always knew someone expose his ground game and i always knew that there were elite strikers out there who had honed their wrestling to the level his fellow striker petr yan had. Like having great striking is cool but it's not enough. Look at max before the conor ragdolling and now. Not as rounded as petr but his wrestling and ground game at least at featherweight are not a liability. Izzy has an obvious skillset gap in his wrestling and ground game and he should learn from his loss from jan blachowicz and from his colleagues max ane petr who are both strikers but have much more to their game... With all due respect.
     
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    As you said, totally different fighters and situations. I don't care how much Izzy improves his grappling. He ain't ragdolling Jan like like Petr ragdolled Sterling. Or even Costa. There are some strong ass fighters at MW and LHW. Petr is very strong at his weight class. Izzy isn't.

    Not only are their styles different, but the landscape in their divisions are different.

    Yan fights in a division that require a super well rounded game to stay at the top. The higher you go up in a weight class, the more you can get away with being a specialist.
     
  3. BRASIL WAND ▓▓▓AMERICAN TOP TEAM▓▓▓

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    Couldn’t agree more. I’ve been very impressed with Yans skillset. He’s the most underrated fighter with an elite skillset.


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    Cool comparison now lets see Yan move up and ragdoll Volkanovski.
     
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  5. Kono dio da! Giorno's Father

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    It's just... If that's always going to be weakness, what happens if someone exploits it AT MIDDLEWEIGHT. Will he ever be the same again? Will he pull a holloway or leon edwards and bounce back? I get that he's not as strong as costa and them but even his ground control when he got tavares down from a sprawl... It's just... He didn't look comfortable on the ground at all. I don't know man.
     
  6. Kono dio da! Giorno's Father

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    Not gonna fucking happen. Volk will outstrike him... Which is ironic af.
     
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    Volks wrestling is very basic and strength based, I think Yan would give him a legit run for his money.

     
  8. Kono dio da! Giorno's Father

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    Look man, his striking is still super underwhelming compared to the hype everyone gave him. But it just blows my mind that he's a striker who's wrestling can't be exploited...but who tools wrestlers....speaking of which why tf do you always hate on leon edwards? It's literally the same logic. Striker who learnt to wrestle and grapple.
     
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    Volk was having trouble with a washed up version of Mendes who’s smaller than Yan. Got dropped like a sack of potatoes. Yan has better cardio, cleaner striking, and hits just as hard.
     
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    Russian fans who used to watch him in ACB were not surprised in the slightest.

    Petr has already faced and beat a grappler, better than Aljo, taking him down with the exact same trips and slams years ago.
     
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  11. Kono dio da! Giorno's Father

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    Doesn't need to wrestle petr. Seen the training footage? Wouldn't pick many bantams over petr at the moment, but the idea that him vs volk would be close IF he gets the belt back is ludicrous.
     
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    Volk is quite underrated would definitely be a good fight..... but while we're talking about fights that probably won't happen... who wants to see Yan vs Triple C?? That little manlet better come back and fight Yan would be a badass fight IMO.
     
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  13. Kono dio da! Giorno's Father

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    Hey man i get you're a fan of yan... But isn't this a little... Overboard?
     
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  14. Kono dio da! Giorno's Father

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    Good fight. Don't know who to pick. Can cejudo hold petr down?
     
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    Most underrated ufc champion. He beat max cleanly. Crazy.
     
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    I noticed Yan fixed a hole in his game, and that was checking leg kicks, before the Sterling fight he got leg kicked a lot in the Rivera, and Aldo fight, but he checked so many in the Sterling fight, he even checked body kicks with his shin, crazy good striker.
     
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    Should watch this, I think it'd be more competitive than you make it out to be. Although I think Volks size would be too much for Yan

     
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    Yup, I told so many people, go watch him vs Magomed Magomedov, he's a much better grappler than Sterling
     
  19. Kono dio da! Giorno's Father

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    Ah nice more footage. Thank you. This is always fun.
     
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  20. Minnja Touch-Butt white belt Platinum Member

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    Yan is extremely good. He’s not super flashy and his striking defense mostly is just covering up so I feel like some people underestimate him because of those things. He’s extremely composed and technical.

    Only thing I think could be a weakness is that due to him shelling up to defend most of the time, I think a high volume striker with great cardio and durability could steal a decision. Aljo’s gameplan of constant pressure striking seemed to be working but since that’s not how he typically fights and not his main strengths I think it’s hard for him to keep that up the whole fight and it took away from his actual strengths. But if he was able to keep that pace up I could see him winning enough rounds to get the win.

    thats a lot of “buts” and “ifs” but basically I think that is a strategy that could work against Petr. Not sure if anyone is capable of doing it for a full 5 rounds without getting hurt by Petr though in the process
     

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