International Wuhan Lab in China was awarded patent for live bat cages months before virus spread

It makes me so sad that I'm seeing videos pop up from China's wet markets. I really think they should be banned forever, there's no reason we have to treat animals that way. Chinese believe in eating things as fresh as possible but it ain't worth the suffering the animals go through and the potential of another zoonotic disease. I'm not sure if that's what the origin is but to me it makes a lot more sense than the lab theory.

I think that the wet markets are a concern because they involve the hunting/capture/farming and transport of often exotic animals into highly populated cities which gives an opportunity for animals carrying novel viruses to come into contact with lots of people. However, in this instance, the wet market in Wuhan is not considered as the cause of the outbreak because the virus was circulating elsewhere in the city, which means someone brought it into the market -a prime high traffic area to faciliatate an outbreak. This is the view of one of the WHO mission scientists who gave an interview to Science:

Q: If you take all of this together, what do we know? What’s the most likely scenario for how and when SARS-CoV-2 started circulating?

A: It’s now clear that during the second half of December there was wide circulation of the virus in Wuhan. The contribution of the market at that time was not so important anymore because the virus was also circulating elsewhere in the city. That to me is a big finding. That was not the picture we had before. The cases outside the market were showing differences in terms of [virus] sequence diversity. Whether that indicates multiple introductions to the city or a single introduction a little bit earlier, followed by spread in different parts of the city, is still unclear. But it all points towards an introduction in the human population in that area in the period October to early December 2019—most probably late November, not so long before the earliest cases were found. But the route of introduction remains a mystery.

Full interview: 'Politics was always in the room.' WHO mission chief reflects on China trip seeking COVID-19’s origin'
 
The US gives money to labs and research all over the world, nothing nefarious about it. It's to advance quality of life by finding solutions to problems. I recall about a year or so ago, the US funding some agricultural program in Pakistan that would increase the yield of fruit trees . Funding a virus research lab in China makes sense since a lot of pandemics emerged from that region.
Most likely. We do often learn governments, including our own, are involved in really weird and shady stuff the public would not have suspected, after the fact. I would lean towards your good natured assessment being correct.
 
Yeah I think like what the other posters have said even if it did not originated in the Labs, the Chinese does not want the world to know their corruption and incompetency,
maybe they have already isolated this virus as early as November but they just all went "Don't tell it to the officials they might shut us down" This Virus will disappear by spring etc.

I mean people can be really stupid and corrupt at the same time.


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The fact that they aren't providing the info means it is a lab escape. If they got nothing to hide then why are they are refusing to give the info.
If they had the original host narrowed down they would have shown it to the world already.
 
So why are they refusing to give the raw data?
China would definitely do the right thing and not cover it up.
Never said they wouldn't. I mean if it really was just something simple that just happened in a wet market instead of gross incompetence with no transparency it would be in their best interest to show that to people. Instead , they tried deflecting onto multiple countries and refused data like you mentioned.
 
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