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International Wuhan Coronavirus V2 - Hide your kids, hide your wife and buy masks!

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smart man.

I have a pantry that may last us about a month if we ration carefully...

but only one firearm in the house.
I think it is a likely scenario where sooner or later something like this happens here and a quarantine situation could have poeple holed up in their houses for a month or more. In a situation like this you can only hope core services remain in place like hydro,gas water etc. And if those services are at risk it’s not silly to have a backup plan in place.

And people who aren’t prepared could be looking to victimize those who are. Not to sound like an alarmist but this stuff could happen and happen relatively fast. I hope they can get this under control and that this virus fizzles out as people isolate themselves but idk I have a weird feeling about this particular one. How many lives does China have in this regard...
 
I think it is a likely scenario where sooner or later something like this happens here and a quarantine situation could have poeple holed up in their houses for a month or more. In a situation like this you can only hope core services remain in place like hydro,gas water etc. And if those services are at risk it’s not silly to have a backup plan in place.

And people who aren’t prepared could be looking to victimize those who are. Not to sound like an alarmist but this stuff could happen and happen relatively fast. I hope they can get this under control and that this virus fizzles out as people isolate themselves but idk I have a weird feeling about this particular one. How many lives does China have in this regard...

no, you're not an alarmist...but rather a realist.

desperate people do desparate things.

It's up to us, Men...real men to protect our loved ones and ourselves.
 
Globalism sure is taking a beating right now

I'm shorting some stocks and significantly decreasing my exposure to the stock market right now. I think it's about to go south real quick.

I used to think of you as the happy-go-lucky lover of posts in the heavies, but you have been dropping gems in this thread Wadtucket.
 
I used to think of you as the happy-go-lucky lover of posts in the heavies, but you have been dropping gems in this thread Wadtucket.
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Wonderful. I live in San Diego. Look at this:

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt

San Diego County’s first coronavirus case mistakenly released from hospital
90

A Kalitta Airlines jet carrying US citizen evacuated from China where the coronavirus is raging landed at MCAS Miramar about 8:30 a.m. Friday.
(John Gibbins / The San Diego Union-Tribune)
Infected patient was cleared by CDC, then returned to UC San Diego Health
By Paul Sisson
Feb. 10, 2020
5:37 PM
A botched test result allowed an evacuee infected with the coronavirus to leave a San Diego hospital Sunday after initially being told by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that they were in the clear.

The situation is detailed in a brief statement released by UC San Diego Health Monday evening, which says that all four quarantine patients admitted to its isolation units last week were discharged back to quarantine quarters at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar after the CDC shared with caregivers that coronavirus tests came back negative.

“This morning, CDC officials advised San Diego (County) Public Health that further testing revealed that one of the four patients tested positive for (novel coronavirus),” the UCSD statement said. “The confirmed positive patient was returned to UC San Diego Health for observation and isolation until cleared by the CDC for release.”

The university said that it also has received another patient with possible coronavirus symptoms, bringing the total hospitalized out of Miramar quarantine to eight.

The two patients currently in isolation units at UCSD facilities are said to be “doing well” with “minimal symptoms.”

In an emailed statement Monday night, the university said that the infected evacuee did not meander out of the hospital to make their way back to Miramar: “The patient left UC San Diego Health the same way they arrived, with all precautions taken. The patient was wearing a mask per CDC instruction. The federal marshals transported the patient while wearing protection.”

It was not clear exactly how long the patient was present at the base before officials realized that their negative test result was actually positive. The university’s statement indicates that they were discharged from the hospital Sunday and returned on Monday, but specific times of day were not specified.

Whenever a person is found to have a serious communicable disease, be it tuberculosis, measles or novel coronavirus, local public health departments are charged with curtailing potential spread from person to person by quickly identifying who they came into contact with. Often close contacts are isolated until testing confirms they are not infected.

Generally, the county health department handles all such “contact tracing” investigations following regulations and best practices codified by the CDC. In an email Monday night, Craig Sturak, a spokesman for the county health department, said that local officials have no jurisdiction on Miramar or any other military base, so the CDC would handle all contact tracing at Miramar.

“The role of the local public health department is to investigate and monitor any prehospital or hospital staff who may care for this patient, which is a very limited number of individuals who have followed (or will follow) CDC recommended personal protective guidelines. So, while we are working closely with federal partners and the local hospitals, the CDC has been and continues to be the lead agency in this situation.”

It was not clear Monday night whether local public health investigators had visited the hosptial and interviewed possible close contacts or audited the use of personal protective gear by those who were in close proximity to the patient after he or she learned of the initial negative test result.

A total of 232 American citizens and their family members are currently serving 14-day government-mandated quarantines after arriving on base last week. They are staying at two cordoned-off buildings, a small hotel and a single-room occupancy quarters for officers, and have no contact with base personnel.

As of Monday, the World Health Organization reported 909 deaths were the result of novel coronavirus infection in China, with an additional death reported outside the country that is at the epicenter of the outbreak that has now infected more than 40,000 people worldwide. In the United States, the CDC reported a dozen cases Monday, but that number does not appear to include the new case in San Diego. As of Feb. 2, the California Department of Public Health has confirmed a total of six cases in the state: two in Santa Clara County, two in San Benito County, one in Los Angeles County and one in Orange County.
 
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Supply and demand in action!
People should get the ones with a ventilator on them. I bought a 10 pack with ventilators and rubber face gasket for $35.00 from Home Depot. They are Milwaukee brand and they are in the tool section by the sanders and hand tools. The paint section was wiped out for N95 in any type but most people don't realize they have stuff over int the sander and hand tool section also.
 
Just checked into this thread. How many of you are seriously stocking up on water, food, and ammo?
 
Wonderful. I live in San Diego. Look at this:

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt

San Diego County’s first coronavirus case mistakenly released from hospital
90

A Kalitta Airlines jet carrying US citizen evacuated from China where the coronavirus is raging landed at MCAS Miramar about 8:30 a.m. Friday.
(John Gibbins / The San Diego Union-Tribune)
Infected patient was cleared by CDC, then returned to UC San Diego Health
By Paul Sisson
Feb. 10, 2020
5:37 PM
A botched test result allowed an evacuee infected with the coronavirus to leave a San Diego hospital Sunday after initially being told by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that they were in the clear.

The situation is detailed in a brief statement released by UC San Diego Health Monday evening, which says that all four quarantine patients admitted to its isolation units last week were discharged back to quarantine quarters at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar after the CDC shared with caregivers that coronavirus tests came back negative.

“This morning, CDC officials advised San Diego (County) Public Health that further testing revealed that one of the four patients tested positive for (novel coronavirus),” the UCSD statement said. “The confirmed positive patient was returned to UC San Diego Health for observation and isolation until cleared by the CDC for release.”

The university said that it also has received another patient with possible coronavirus symptoms, bringing the total hospitalized out of Miramar quarantine to eight.

The two patients currently in isolation units at UCSD facilities are said to be “doing well” with “minimal symptoms.”

In an emailed statement Monday night, the university said that the infected evacuee did not meander out of the hospital to make their way back to Miramar: “The patient left UC San Diego Health the same way they arrived, with all precautions taken. The patient was wearing a mask per CDC instruction. The federal marshals transported the patient while wearing protection.”

It was not clear exactly how long the patient was present at the base before officials realized that their negative test result was actually positive. The university’s statement indicates that they were discharged from the hospital Sunday and returned on Monday, but specific times of day were not specified.

Whenever a person is found to have a serious communicable disease, be it tuberculosis, measles or novel coronavirus, local public health departments are charged with curtailing potential spread from person to person by quickly identifying who they came into contact with. Often close contacts are isolated until testing confirms they are not infected.

Generally, the county health department handles all such “contact tracing” investigations following regulations and best practices codified by the CDC. In an email Monday night, Craig Sturak, a spokesman for the county health department, said that local officials have no jurisdiction on Miramar or any other military base, so the CDC would handle all contact tracing at Miramar.

“The role of the local public health department is to investigate and monitor any prehospital or hospital staff who may care for this patient, which is a very limited number of individuals who have followed (or will follow) CDC recommended personal protective guidelines. So, while we are working closely with federal partners and the local hospitals, the CDC has been and continues to be the lead agency in this situation.”

It was not clear Monday night whether local public health investigators had visited the hosptial and interviewed possible close contacts or audited the use of personal protective gear by those who were in close proximity to the patient after he or she learned of the initial negative test result.

A total of 232 American citizens and their family members are currently serving 14-day government-mandated quarantines after arriving on base last week. They are staying at two cordoned-off buildings, a small hotel and a single-room occupancy quarters for officers, and have no contact with base personnel.

As of Monday, the World Health Organization reported 909 deaths were the result of novel coronavirus infection in China, with an additional death reported outside the country that is at the epicenter of the outbreak that has now infected more than 40,000 people worldwide. In the United States, the CDC reported a dozen cases Monday, but that number does not appear to include the new case in San Diego. As of Feb. 2, the California Department of Public Health has confirmed a total of six cases in the state: two in Santa Clara County, two in San Benito County, one in Los Angeles County and one in Orange County.


They should quarantine them all for 24 days just to be sure.
 
Wonderful. I live in San Diego. Look at this:

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt

San Diego County’s first coronavirus case mistakenly released from hospital
90

A Kalitta Airlines jet carrying US citizen evacuated from China where the coronavirus is raging landed at MCAS Miramar about 8:30 a.m. Friday.
(John Gibbins / The San Diego Union-Tribune)
Infected patient was cleared by CDC, then returned to UC San Diego Health
By Paul Sisson
Feb. 10, 2020
5:37 PM
A botched test result allowed an evacuee infected with the coronavirus to leave a San Diego hospital Sunday after initially being told by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that they were in the clear.

The situation is detailed in a brief statement released by UC San Diego Health Monday evening, which says that all four quarantine patients admitted to its isolation units last week were discharged back to quarantine quarters at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar after the CDC shared with caregivers that coronavirus tests came back negative.

“This morning, CDC officials advised San Diego (County) Public Health that further testing revealed that one of the four patients tested positive for (novel coronavirus),” the UCSD statement said. “The confirmed positive patient was returned to UC San Diego Health for observation and isolation until cleared by the CDC for release.”

The university said that it also has received another patient with possible coronavirus symptoms, bringing the total hospitalized out of Miramar quarantine to eight.

The two patients currently in isolation units at UCSD facilities are said to be “doing well” with “minimal symptoms.”

In an emailed statement Monday night, the university said that the infected evacuee did not meander out of the hospital to make their way back to Miramar: “The patient left UC San Diego Health the same way they arrived, with all precautions taken. The patient was wearing a mask per CDC instruction. The federal marshals transported the patient while wearing protection.”

It was not clear exactly how long the patient was present at the base before officials realized that their negative test result was actually positive. The university’s statement indicates that they were discharged from the hospital Sunday and returned on Monday, but specific times of day were not specified.

Whenever a person is found to have a serious communicable disease, be it tuberculosis, measles or novel coronavirus, local public health departments are charged with curtailing potential spread from person to person by quickly identifying who they came into contact with. Often close contacts are isolated until testing confirms they are not infected.

Generally, the county health department handles all such “contact tracing” investigations following regulations and best practices codified by the CDC. In an email Monday night, Craig Sturak, a spokesman for the county health department, said that local officials have no jurisdiction on Miramar or any other military base, so the CDC would handle all contact tracing at Miramar.

“The role of the local public health department is to investigate and monitor any prehospital or hospital staff who may care for this patient, which is a very limited number of individuals who have followed (or will follow) CDC recommended personal protective guidelines. So, while we are working closely with federal partners and the local hospitals, the CDC has been and continues to be the lead agency in this situation.”

It was not clear Monday night whether local public health investigators had visited the hosptial and interviewed possible close contacts or audited the use of personal protective gear by those who were in close proximity to the patient after he or she learned of the initial negative test result.

A total of 232 American citizens and their family members are currently serving 14-day government-mandated quarantines after arriving on base last week. They are staying at two cordoned-off buildings, a small hotel and a single-room occupancy quarters for officers, and have no contact with base personnel.

As of Monday, the World Health Organization reported 909 deaths were the result of novel coronavirus infection in China, with an additional death reported outside the country that is at the epicenter of the outbreak that has now infected more than 40,000 people worldwide. In the United States, the CDC reported a dozen cases Monday, but that number does not appear to include the new case in San Diego. As of Feb. 2, the California Department of Public Health has confirmed a total of six cases in the state: two in Santa Clara County, two in San Benito County, one in Los Angeles County and one in Orange County.
And this ladies and gents is what can go wrong when you bring people home from a virus stricken place. No worries people we are gonna quarantine them .....
 
Just checked into this thread. How many of you are seriously stocking up on water, food, and ammo?

I don't think we'll hit "Contagion" movie levels in terms of going South, but I always try to stay prepared. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
 
Wonderful. I live in San Diego. Look at this:

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt

San Diego County’s first coronavirus case mistakenly released from hospital
90

A Kalitta Airlines jet carrying US citizen evacuated from China where the coronavirus is raging landed at MCAS Miramar about 8:30 a.m. Friday.
(John Gibbins / The San Diego Union-Tribune)
Infected patient was cleared by CDC, then returned to UC San Diego Health
By Paul Sisson
Feb. 10, 2020
5:37 PM
A botched test result allowed an evacuee infected with the coronavirus to leave a San Diego hospital Sunday after initially being told by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that they were in the clear.

The situation is detailed in a brief statement released by UC San Diego Health Monday evening, which says that all four quarantine patients admitted to its isolation units last week were discharged back to quarantine quarters at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar after the CDC shared with caregivers that coronavirus tests came back negative.

“This morning, CDC officials advised San Diego (County) Public Health that further testing revealed that one of the four patients tested positive for (novel coronavirus),” the UCSD statement said. “The confirmed positive patient was returned to UC San Diego Health for observation and isolation until cleared by the CDC for release.”

The university said that it also has received another patient with possible coronavirus symptoms, bringing the total hospitalized out of Miramar quarantine to eight.

The two patients currently in isolation units at UCSD facilities are said to be “doing well” with “minimal symptoms.”

In an emailed statement Monday night, the university said that the infected evacuee did not meander out of the hospital to make their way back to Miramar: “The patient left UC San Diego Health the same way they arrived, with all precautions taken. The patient was wearing a mask per CDC instruction. The federal marshals transported the patient while wearing protection.”

It was not clear exactly how long the patient was present at the base before officials realized that their negative test result was actually positive. The university’s statement indicates that they were discharged from the hospital Sunday and returned on Monday, but specific times of day were not specified.

Whenever a person is found to have a serious communicable disease, be it tuberculosis, measles or novel coronavirus, local public health departments are charged with curtailing potential spread from person to person by quickly identifying who they came into contact with. Often close contacts are isolated until testing confirms they are not infected.

Generally, the county health department handles all such “contact tracing” investigations following regulations and best practices codified by the CDC. In an email Monday night, Craig Sturak, a spokesman for the county health department, said that local officials have no jurisdiction on Miramar or any other military base, so the CDC would handle all contact tracing at Miramar.

“The role of the local public health department is to investigate and monitor any prehospital or hospital staff who may care for this patient, which is a very limited number of individuals who have followed (or will follow) CDC recommended personal protective guidelines. So, while we are working closely with federal partners and the local hospitals, the CDC has been and continues to be the lead agency in this situation.”

It was not clear Monday night whether local public health investigators had visited the hosptial and interviewed possible close contacts or audited the use of personal protective gear by those who were in close proximity to the patient after he or she learned of the initial negative test result.

A total of 232 American citizens and their family members are currently serving 14-day government-mandated quarantines after arriving on base last week. They are staying at two cordoned-off buildings, a small hotel and a single-room occupancy quarters for officers, and have no contact with base personnel.

As of Monday, the World Health Organization reported 909 deaths were the result of novel coronavirus infection in China, with an additional death reported outside the country that is at the epicenter of the outbreak that has now infected more than 40,000 people worldwide. In the United States, the CDC reported a dozen cases Monday, but that number does not appear to include the new case in San Diego. As of Feb. 2, the California Department of Public Health has confirmed a total of six cases in the state: two in Santa Clara County, two in San Benito County, one in Los Angeles County and one in Orange County.

criminal incompetence
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/airlift-canadian-wuhan-coronavirus-1.5457979

Bwahaha!

No immediate plan to change Canada's travel, isolation rules as global number of coronavirus cases climbs

Chief public health officer says risk remains low; 7 cases reported in Ontario and British Columbia
Canada has no immediate plan to impose stronger border controls or isolation protocols in response to the coronavirus outbreak, but the rules could change at any time based on the evolution of the disease, Canada's Chief Public Health Officer Theresa Tam said today.

Asked by reporters during a teleconference if Canada would follow the U.S. and some European nations in barring entry to people coming from China, Tam said current measures and guidelines now in place are sufficient because the risk to Canada remains low.

Global Affairs Canada has warned against all travel to the Hubei province of China, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak. The department has warned against non-essential travel to China and is suggesting that Canadians now in China leave if their presence there isn't critical.

Public health officials also have asked people returning from Hubei to self-isolate for 14 days, or — if they're returning from elsewhere in China — to stay home if they experience any symptoms.

"Of course we will be evaluating all these measures on an ongoing basis, but right now we believe that is the right balance in protecting the health of Canadians," said Tam, noting that Canada's approach is in line with the World Health Organization's guidelines related to "inappropriate restrictions to travel and trade."

A second Canadian charter plane has departed Wuhan, China, to bring home more people stuck in the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak.

The plane left China with 185 passengers on board, according to a tweet from Foreign Affairs Minister François-Philippe Champagne.

When a government-chartered jet left Wuhan last week to bring Canadians home from the outbreak zone, fewer people departed than were on the passenger manifest. Officials said at the time that some may have changed their minds at the last minute, or may have been denied permission to board because they were showing signs of illness.

Update on the second Canadian flight from #Wuhan:

The plane has departed with 185 passengers on board. It will stop to refuel in Vancouver and then continue onward to @CanadianForces Base #Trenton.

The aircraft seats about 250 people, including crew and medical officials, and will travel to Vancouver before going on to Trenton, Ont.

The first Canadian charter flight to Wuhan carried out 174 Canadians and their family members, who are now undergoing a two-week quarantine at a military base in Trenton, Ont.

Another 39 Canadians left on an American charter and are now under quarantine at the base. Those departing Wuhan today will also be housed at the base for two weeks.

Tam said the new wave of evacuees will also be housed at the base.


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Chief Public Health Officer of Canada Theresa Tam says the coronavirus risk remains low to Canada. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)
Once the quarantines lift, the evacuees will be allowed to return home. Tam could not provide details on whether they would get government assistance in travelling to their final destination, but noted that some people may not have a residence in Canada if they have been in Wuhan for an extended time.

There have been more than 40,000 cases of the novel coronavirus reported worldwide, and more than 900 deaths.

In Canada, there have been seven cases of the virus: four in British Columbia and three in Ontario. Tam said today that all have either recovered or are recovering.

The U.K. already has elevated its risk level assessment from low to moderate; today, the country's health secretary announced strengthened legal powers to impose restrictions on anyone thought to pose a risk of spreading the virus.

The regulations will apply to anyone trying to leave before the 14-day quarantine is complete, and will also allow authorities to detain anyone who may be infected.

If this breaks out in Canada when we could have stopped it with a stronger initial response, I will be furious.
 


guess how many Americans are gonna go see a doctor if they think they got the flu in So Cal? About zero. They’ll just try to work through it and go about their day. Like most everyone else.
 
Ugh.......I’m done with this shit. How the fuck. What the fuck ....

that’s too long.

edit: gonna go check the global times

and bill gates nails it. A name put forth is Dr Lieber
 
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