International Wuhan Coronavirus V2 - Hide your kids, hide your wife and buy masks!

[irish_thug]

On the other hand, I'm about to vanish into the woods.

That's my usual go-to maneuver.

 

[irish_thug]

Well, it's not like we didn't try.

Now lock them in.

 

[Zazen]

Little spat bw authorities and couple being locked in their apartment.

“We advise you to not have any fire emergencies” lol

Lol at "you're being unreasonable". He is literally telling them they cannot leave their own home even if there is an emergency.

 

[Low Test With da Best]

Agreed. You should leave and take most of that stupid with you. The point i was making is that you should not hesitate to wash your hands even if no soap is available as you can absolutely get a good clean and remove contagion threats by simple vigorous washing under running water. Soap is definitely beneficial if available as people tend to wash longer to remove suds and it breaks up oils which may trap contagions. But you can get the same result with a very vigorous water only, wash if that is all that is available such as when you are out in many outdoor spaces that might have a fountain with running water but no soap available.


Study: Washing your hands — even without soap — is more effective than hand sanitizers for flu prevention

...Washing your hands under running water — even without soap — is more effective at stopping the spread of flu germs than using ethanol-based hand sanitizers, according to Japanese researchers....

Situations Leading to Reduced Effectiveness of Current Hand Hygiene against Infectious Mucus from Influenza Virus-Infected Patients

The handiwork of good health

...Soap and water don't kill germs; they work by mechanically removing them from your hands. Running water by itself does a pretty good job of germ removal, but soap increases the overall effectiveness by pulling unwanted material off the skin and into the water. In fact, if your hands are visibly dirty or have food on them, soap and water are more effective than the alcohol-based "hand sanitizers" because the proteins and fats in food tend to reduce alcohol's germ-killing power. This is one of the main reasons soap and water is still favored in the food industry...

Studies Show Hand Washing May Be More Effective Than Sanitizer


Next, researchers tested the effects of sanitizer and hand-washing on people’s hands. Scientists applied flu-infected mucus to the fingertips of 10 volunteers in two rounds. The first round, the mucus was allowed to dry completely (for 40 minutes), and the sanitizer eradicated the virus within 30 minutes. The second time, though, the sanitizer was applied when the mucus was still wet. This time, the sanitizer took about 4 minutes for the virus to be completely eliminated.

Hand-washing had a different effect, however. When the volunteers washed their hands under running water, the virus was eradicated after 30 seconds, whether the mucus was wet or dry. This held true even though the volunteers used no soap while hand-washing. Just the act of running hands under water and rubbing them together proved more effective than a dab of sanitizer, the researchers found—and were surprised by.

Thanks for posting the study, very informative!

 

[all caps]

The first reported case of this so called virus in the US was in my hometown. There has been no discussion about it or that person since that day.

Pic not related (or is it?)

Spoiler

 

[SRN]

Little spat bw authorities and couple being locked in their apartment.

“We advise you to not have any fire emergencies” lol

Everytime I see videos like that I get this eerie feeling they want to kill these people. It really makes me uncomfortable to think about it but how are they supposed to survive an emergency if they can't even escape? No to mention the lack of food, water and meds. They are isolating millions of people like that!

 

[Orgasmo]

Shit I can't find the link now, but China just reported approximately 200,000 individuals are under "observation", essentially being quarantined inside their households. Can you imagine how many family members of those individuals will get infected staying inside with them?

Assuming in the optimistic scenario they're all nuclear families (mother, father and child), that's 600,000 cases. If the households have grandparents and extra kids, we're talking about approaching a million.

 

[Stoic1]

I think Netflix should start a new category to cash in on this disaster. So many movies to link: Contagion, 28 days later, Virus, etc.

I mean, what else are those quarantined people gonna do while locked in their homes?

Am I right?

 

[Rob Battisti]

I think Netflix should start a new category to cash in on this disaster. So many movies to link: Contagion, 28 days later, Virus, etc.

I mean, what else are those quarantined people gonna do while locked in their homes?

Am I right?

they have a new doc called “Pandemic” it’s pretty good and def scary

 

[irish_thug]

*ahem*
from page 3 of your link:


your own citation disagrees with you. your own source... is refuting your claim. you should have actually read the article instead of trying so hard to find some bullshit that fits your agenda that you just paste something without realizing that it's affirming my claims.




WAT

"no soap needed." "just as clean."

so full of shit.

Holy fuck go to sleep.

Read your point above but add the word

'EXCEPT' before reading this.

This held true even though the volunteers used no soap.

I made a simple point which was ...

wash, wash, wash and i wanted people to know that even if soap is not available you should still wash as it is not needed to get the results.

I have absolutely proven that and yet you bleat on as you do not want to admit you are wrong.

I never said soap was not MORE effective. It is more effective as in faster but BOTH "eradicate the virus".

You do not need any more effective than that. All you are arguing is that washing with soap is quicker but if both are done properly and thoroughly they both work.

You guys want to take your hygiene argument elsewhere please.

 

[MusterX]

That R naught of 4 is nightmare stuff. If this had the mortality rate of SARS, I would be bunkering down for the end of the world as we know it.

I'm not sure if we know the actual mortality rate yet or not. Could be higher than you think. China is welding people inside buildings...

 

[Rob Battisti]

40,000+ infected
900+ dead

can’t trust the numbers inside China, but the lack of mortality outside of China is encouraging.

The mortality rate doesn’t scare me though, it’s the R0 and the ICU%

 

[irish_thug]

Here is the site I use for updates for anyone who would like to check it out.

https://ncov2019.live

Added this link to the OP for those wishing up to date info.

 

[GiTGuD]

So all the police with shitty little masks coming in contact with people infected, are pretty much fucked right?



Those Masks aren't enough, right? I thought they had to be N95 or better?

 

[Cole train]

40,000+ infected
900+ dead

can’t trust the numbers inside China, but the lack of mortality outside of China is encouraging.

The mortality rate doesn’t scare me though, it’s the R0 and the ICU%

Think outside china it hasnt really hit kids or older people

50k getting broken this week

 

[Cole train]

So all the police with shitty little masks coming in contact with people infected, are pretty much fucked right?



Those Masks aren't enough, right? I thought they had to be N95 or better?

Personally im putting on my military gas mask and anti-chemical attack gear

 

[Rob Battisti]

Think outside china it hasnt really hit kids or older people

50k getting broken this week

my fear is the 2 week incubation period. There may be many thousand more infected without symptoms.

 

[MikeMcMann]

So all the police with shitty little masks coming in contact with people infected, are pretty much fucked right?



Those Masks aren't enough, right? I thought they had to be N95 or better?

ya first line responders are typically going to take a much higher percentage of losses in situations like this where they have inadequate protection.

 

[MicroBrew]

I'm finding it's 120 nanometers, or .12 microns

Fifth paragraph:
https://www.pptaglobal.org/media-an...avirus-2019-ncov-and-plasma-protein-therapies

The CDC and other websites say the N95 will block 95% of particles 0.3 microns and larger . So with nCov being .12 microns it should get through the N95 mask but the CDC website says this:

An N95 FFR is a type of respirator which removes particles from the air that are breathed through it. These respirators filter out at least 95% of very small (0.3 micron) particles. N95 FFR are capable of filtering out all types of particles, including bacteria and viruses.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices...t-infection-control/masks-and-n95-respirators


The American Society of Anesthesiologists recommends use of an N95 mask to mitigate the risk of infection.
Recommendations:

Personal protection

• Health care professionals entering the room should use airborne precautions. Wear an N95 respirator mask, which filters 95 percent of particles > 0.3 microns in diameter. Airborne precautions also call for the use of eye protection (e.g., goggles or a face shield), gowns and gloves to prevent the transmission of droplets and smaller airborne particles that settle on environmental surfaces and mucous membranes. Hand hygiene (using an alcohol-based hand rub) is essential before and after donning gloves.

https://www.asahq.org/about-asa/gov.../committee-on-occupational-health/coronavirus



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I am trying to find additional sources that state the size of the virus but that info is less than forthcoming.

 

[MicroBrew]

which isn't all that bad of an idea, given that 85% of cases are mild... and that the virus can be spread 1-2 days before the carrier shows symptoms. which is presumably how so many were infected to begin with.


that's pretty normal, in general. and china's infectious units were pretty lax, they're reportedly stepped them up.

Isntead of isolating infected persons and protecting non infected persons, they are throwing them all together, because the authorities are using a sledge hammer where a tack hammer is called for.

Imagine you are a family member who is infected; you are forced to stay with family members who are not infected. That is a horrible situation to put families in.