Social WTF Elon ????????????????

[brackis1]

As with everything your comprehension is your problem.

Here is my quote you could not comprehend "I said 'I actually do not like Conor'"

You literally have the comprehension skills of a toddler and you are trying to talk corporate strategy and stock.

i honestly suggest, and hope you take the suggestion, that you get someone to read these posts to you and help you with the big words as you are making yourself look like a fool.

Tell me about what you were defending McGregor on. And tell me what "fact" or "truth" you're defending Musk on. Should be quality intellectualism I'm sure.

Are you really trying to defend that he isn't making outrageous fantasy claims up every month?
You're a joke dude. This entire thread is about a guy running a public company trying to raise capital off emotion driven investors, then you defend the dude, then you say you try to stay away from emotion driven investing. It's a goddamn twilight zone I'm living in.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I am driven by the emotions of others. I think Nio has a great car; as I've stated multiple times here I'd consider a Tesla too. I knew people would get scared by the news. What am I supposed to do? Take it on the chin and not sell $40,000 of assets when I expect it to drop 3-10%?

Run along child; the metrics on Tesla are trash. Try telling me about their bond offerings.

And once again the point goes over your head. I specifically said Tesla was NOT being driven by metrics at this point which is why it makes it a dangerous investment because by the metrics it should trade a lot lower. So trying to short it based on traditional metrics of thinking 'it is over valued' is dangerous since the current owners and buyer of the stock largely do not care and support it regardless, for now.

So once again we agree in that area but due to your lack of comprehension you simply do not understand the point made.

 

[brackis1]

And once again the point goes over your head. I specifically said Tesla was NOT being driven by metrics at this point which is why it makes it a dangerous investment because by the metrics it should trade a lot lower. So trying to short it based on traditional metrics of thinking 'it is over valued' is dangerous since the current owners and buyer of the stock largely do not care and support it regardless, for now.

So once again we agree in that area but due to your lack of comprehension you simply do not understand the point made.

AGAIN: my critique is that Musk leads innovation based on hype and emotion, which is why he is a fraud and trash. How is this so hard? I've made money off this shit and monitor the EV market daily; run along.

Volatility = stock reduction over time. Emotion driven investing is a net loser in the long run, which is one reason people short.
VXX correlates to market drops.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Tell me about what you were defending McGregor on. And tell me what "fact" or "truth" you're defending Musk on. Should be quality intellectualism I'm sure.

Are you really trying to defend that he isn't making outrageous fantasy claims up every month?
You're a joke dude. This entire thread is about a guy running a public company trying to raise capital off emotion driven investors, then you defend the dude, then you say you try to stay away from emotion driven investing. It's a goddamn twilight zone I'm living in.

I am already sorry to have engaged with such an irrational hater in what could otherwise be a good thread so I am not going to further derail it when what i say does not matter dude to your lack of comprehension skills. I literally wrote this "I said 'I actually do not like Conor'" and what you read and came back with was "so you're a conor fan too".

You cannot predict that level of stupid. Not even in sherdog.

 

[MikeMcMann]

AGAIN: my critique is that Musk leads innovation based on hype and emotion, which is why he is a fraud and trash. How is this so hard? I've made money off this shit and monitor the EV market daily; run along.

I don't care about any of that. I have never argued with you on any of that. I even say we might largely agree on lots of that. All of our arguments are when you say stupid stuff like "like mocking his wealth being tied up in his stock as if that is a negative' and then retreat back pretending we are arguing about things like you write here which is NOT what we are arguing about.

And I would bet real money that you have lost far more then you have made in trading. Emotional investors like you never win long term. NEVER.

 

[brackis1]

It's well established that your argument hinges on comparisons to McGregor hate and Bezos stock value in trying to prove I'm both a bad judge of company valuation, personal character, and a strawman peddler.

This has been a fun exercise in flexing on some pathetic keyboard warrior using actual stock trades.
I'm the "emotional hater", but Musk (guy who calls scuba dudes s) isn't?

I don't care about any of that. I have never argued with you on any of that. I even say we might largely agree on lots of that. All of our arguments are when you say stupid stuff like "like mocking his wealth being tied up in his stock as if that is a negative' and then retreat back pretending we are arguing about things like you write here which is NOT what we are arguing about.

And I would bet real money that you have lost far more then you have made in trading. Emotional investors like you never win long term. NEVER.

If it wasn't a complete exposure of my personal identity I would rip you a new asshole with my portfolio growth over time. I spent the last decade riding dividends and vanguard funds. I took out 1/3 of my net worth at end of summer when I saw the markets absurdly overvalued and guys like Musk getting wayyyyy too much money. (Projected losses for year on portfolio that remains in funds will offset the capital gains hit from trading, covering years of compound run up that I'm taking profit on to liquidate)

I'm currently betting against Goose jacket, Yeti, Tesla. All brands where middle america way overspends on hype. Go tell me how I've done this month...

 

[MikeMcMann]

It's well established that your argument hinges on comparisons to McGregor hate and Bezos stock value in trying to prove I'm both a bad judge of company valuation, personal character, and a strawman peddler.

This has been a fun exercise in flexing on some pathetic keyboard warrior using actual stock trades.
I'm the "emotional hater", but Musk (guy who calls scuba dudes s) isn't?

If it wasn't a complete exposure of my personal identity I would rip you a new asshole with my portfolio growth over time. I spent the last decade riding dividends and vanguard funds. I took out 1/3 of my net worth at end of summer when I saw the markets absurdly overvalued and guys like Musk getting wayyyyy too much money. (Projected losses for year on portfolio that remains in funds will offset the capital gains hit from trading, covering years of compound run up that I'm taking profit on to liquidate)

I'm currently betting against Goose jacket, Yeti, Tesla. All brands where middle america way overspends on hype. Go tell me how I've done this month...

blah, blah bullshit.

Post your buy slips of the 5 most current purchases without your name on them and then we will track at how good you are over the next few months. Heck we are heading into a traders market with the volatility we are seeing now.

I will bet you anything you lose money over a 6 months period. Sig bet, Av bet, account bet. whatever you want as the one thing I know is that emotional investors do not win, and you are the worst of that lot. And internet braggarts are fake whether day traders or gamblers.

 

[brackis1]

blah, blah bullshit.

Post your buy slips of the 5 most current purchases without your name on them and then we will track at how good you are over the next few months. Heck we are heading into a traders market with the volatility we are seeing now.

I will bet you anything you lose money over a 6 months period. Sig bet, Av bet, account bet. whatever you want as the one thing I know is that emotional investors do not win, and you are the worst of that lot. And internet braggarts are fake whether day traders or gamblers.

Musk sucks and I'm up. Did me retorting with Vanguard 500 references sting? I will be long in 2019 and as I've already described, my positions are fluid and I've played both sides of Tesla.
I've walked all over you with continual evidence.
How's your day going? Go play in traffic while it's still dangerous; a few years from now we'll have smartcars one way or another and not because of what's between Elon's ears. I'll keep lowering the price on my cover-stops in the meantime. lol @ an account bet. I've been posting here since before the subprime crisis.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Musk sucks and I'm up. Did me retorting with Vanguard 500 references sting? I will be long in 2019 and as I've already described, my positions are fluid and I've played both sides of Tesla.
I've walked all over you with continual evidence.
How's your day going? Go play in traffic while it's still dangerous; a few years from now we'll have smartcars one way or another and not because of what's between Elon's ears. I'll keep lowering the price on my cover-stops in the meantime.
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lol at evidence dude. Statements are not evidence. And stupid statements are less so.

I offered you a clear challenge where evidence can be provided without you being identified. Heck you don't even need to actually buy your picks. Just make your picks now and put it put so we can track it and lets see how good you are over the next 6 months.

As I said, a volatile market such as we have just entered is a good traders dream. but 'good' is the operative word there.

The worst thing to ever happen to online poker was when people could actually track and expose other people winnings and losing. Guys, called Fish, who would claim to be winning but losing thousands, got exposed and mocked and left the game, many in denial of their own losses when they were forced to actually see them. They just remembered the last win. i guarantee that is you. I would bet on it. Funny you won't though.

Take the bet, or don't and keep talking and bragging about your evidence. lol.

 

[brackis1]

lol at evidence dude. Statements are not evidence. And stupid statements are less so.

I offered you a clear challenge where evidence can be provided without you being identified. Heck you don't even need to actually buy your picks. Just make your picks now and put it put so we can track it and lets see how good you are over the next 6 months.

As I said, a volatile market such as we have just entered is a good traders dream. but 'good' is the operative word there.

The worst thing to ever happen to online poker was when people could actually track and expose other people winnings and losing. Guys, called Fish, who would claim to be winning but losing thousands, got exposed and mocked and left the game, many in denial of their own losses when they were forced to actually see them. They just remembered the last win. i guarantee that is you. I would bet on it. Funny you won't though.

Take the bet, or don't and keep talking and bragging about your evidence. lol.

Dude how effing hard is this for you: I already told you I'm not holding picks for long term an described a winning investment strategy spanning a decade.
You've continually changed the goalposts and not only do I continue to wipe the floor with your hail mary attempts at 'winning' this argument. I don't give a flying fornication about your account. I care that Musk sucks ass and if I can make some money along the way playing idiots with emotions then so be it.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Dude how effing hard is this for you: I already told you I'm not holding picks for long term an described a winning investment strategy spanning a decade.
You've continually changed the goalposts and not only do I continue to wipe the floor with your hail mary attempts at 'winning' this argument. I don't give a flying fornication about your account. I care that Musk sucks ass and if I can make some money along the way playing idiots with emotions then so be it.

So then you give the parameters hot shot.

As long as you post at the time of purchase and announce just before the time of sale this will work on any incremental time frame. We will just do for six months with however many trades you make.

Show us how good you are. lol.

But you know how I know you won't take on this challenge

 

[brackis1]

So then you give the parameters hot shot.

As long as you post at the time of purchase and announce just before the time of sale this will work on any incremental time frame. We will just do for six months with however many trades you make.

Show us how good you are. lol.

But you know how I know you won't take on this challenge

I stated 4 stocks already that I'm in on.
I reply with 5 figure stock trades while you scrounge for TLJ memes.
Trying to mortgage this absolute slaughter of a debate with a 6 month option contract on your trolling thru a bet is comical. I'll stick to bets that pay my rent.

GTFO

 

[MikeMcMann]

I stated 4 stocks already that I'm in on.
I reply with 5 figure stock trades while you scrounge for TLJ memes.
Trying to mortgage this absolute slaughter of a debate with a 6 month option contract on your trolling thru a bet is comical. I'll stick to bets that pay my rent.

GTFO
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Dude. If you are posting pics here or in other posts I cannot see them. I can see some type of error but no pics.

Just write out the stocks you bought recently or today or tomorrow and the price and I'll track them.

 

[brackis1]

This should suffice.

 

[brackis1]

As an example of how this dude employs spectacle charity-marketing when things aren't going so hot:
https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/20...cial&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=mlive_sf

https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2018/10/elon_musk_to_pay_for_water_sta.html

Nearly identical donation amounts, both during the biggest dip weeks for his stock. Amazing timing!

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Normally costs 900 million per mile of tunnel...builds a 1.2 mile test tunnel for 10 million AND takes the dirt and turns them into bricks he sells for 10c each...for this "thing he didnt invent yet did".

 

[PEB]

Normally costs 900 million per mile of tunnel...builds a 1.2 mile test tunnel for 10 million AND takes the dirt and turns them into bricks he sells for 10c each...for this "thing he didnt invent yet did".

Then he does this awful thing.

 

[brackis1]

Normally costs 900 million per mile of tunnel...builds a 1.2 mile test tunnel for 10 million AND takes the dirt and turns them into bricks he sells for 10c each...for this "thing he didnt invent yet did".

lol the dude couldn't even finish the concrete properly and had to apologize for a bumpy 50mph ride.
Comparing the cost of boring an empty tube with a rail in it is laughable compared to the civil engineering of a functioning public tunnel run with regulated light, power, finishing etc...

Musk sat around giving nonsense tours to all the major media outlets of a halfbaked hole because this is his advertisement. You realize most car companies spend over a billion dollars a year of ads right? BMW does 2-3 billion a year in ads and they have a paper value right now LOWER THAN TESLA. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are earned every time a Public Relations person at a car company can land this type of coverage. It's worth far more than the cost of the tunnel. This "make bricks" thing is effing hilarious too because of how desperately he is grasping at the Henry Ford charcoal comparison (the precursor to Kingsford Charcoal). What is this...the 20th different fake product/idea he has floated while still figuring out how to build cars?
It's because CBS or NBC has zero reason to come to give him free coverage if he doesn't have a zany stunt to show off. If there was simply progress toward making a high range battery, or improved software, or autonomous driving upgrades, all of which cost hundreds of millions or billions to develop, they'd have no excuse to put stuff on social media because people are dumb as shit and can only digest so much technical data but love videos of stuff that looks cool. Instead he can piece together a series of promotions using a few million here and a few million there.

Kids trapped in a cave getting worldwide coverage while I'm on a trip to China? Spend a million outsourcing a sub design to a random company and then claim credit for it: https://www.times-standard.com/2018/07/06/wing-inflatables-assisting-with-thai-soccer-team-rescue/

The "but wait there's more!" gag only goes so far, or maybe not since our country is dumb as rocks.

 

[brackis1]

Then he does this awful thing.

Oh you mean the dude who keeps pretending like he is gonna save Flint from its water crisis and/or economic woes and does nothing for months, then buys some laptops when his stock drops?

He is courting both Michigan and Ohio for free/taxpayer subsidized manufacturing under the idea he will create an automotive renaissance there.

It's insane how in bed politicians are with industrialists on this shit. Here (link) we have a governor literally trying to offer up the labor and physical capital of one company to another as if it's some crown of industrial approval they get to pass from one to another (talking about GM to Tesla). And again: if Musk could stick to engineering the cheapest, best, safest car using safe united states manufacturing I'd be all for it. But instead we get weird ass hypebeast shit and it terrifies me how much it impresses people.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/20/reu...igh-fate-of-ohio-plant-trump-wants-saved.html

 

[brackis1]

One of the sketchiest things is Tesla's use of propaganda blogs to mouthpiece their news/marketing/PR in hopes of it getting picked up by the press at large.
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/2...-teslas-to-lets-kids-get-to-surgery-in-style/
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co...lectric-car-donated-to-childrens-ward-at-bri/
Wild stuff. Prepping for UK debut of their Model 3? Randomly give some electric toy cars to UK childrens hospitals to stoke the good sentiment while advertising a weird cult toy (yet another side product with no use besides branding/hype, despite their continuous claims they work around the clock on saving the world and trying to build cars). Then praise overlord Musk for the donation and act like it's some amazing charitable act to do product placement inside a ward for sick children.