Wrestler VS Bodybuilder massive size difference.

[D 1 Wrestler]

Bodybuilder using functional strength


And here's one NOT using it

First link is misleading that guy is a pro arm wrestler not just a random body builder

Here's a kid arm wrestler vs a grown man roided to the gills bodybuilder.

 

[Deleted member 466273]

First link is misleading that guy is a pro arm wrestler not just a random body builder

He's still built like a bodybuilder and can use it to his advantage

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Here's a kid arm wrestler vs a grown man roided to the gills bodybuilder.

That bodybuilder wouldn't even make top 5 in the old system/rules

 

[Grijswaarde]

Whatever you call bench press, it is not a functional strength exercise. Targeting one or two muscles is not functional strength. I don't know what modern bodybuilders do, but old school ones certainly did functional strength stuff as well

Just saying it isnt an isolation exercise... and for sure bench pressing is functional... pushing someone off you for example, or anything that requires pushing for that matter.

 

[thehighking]

That's not true... obviously powerlifters and strongmen are stronger... duh.. but any pro bodybuilder will SEVERELY outlift a random person. They all do a lot of compound exercises, albeit in the 10-20 rep range.

Not to mention that the vast majority of successful bodybuilders also do powerlifting and heavy weight low reps. Everyone who likes getting big and strong likes hitting a new 1RM

 

[Grijswaarde]

Not to mention that the vast majority of successful bodybuilders also do powerlifting and heavy weight low reps. Everyone who likes getting big and strong likes hitting a new 1RM

This. People just don't understand the bulk of bodybuilding training is heavy compound exercises. All they see is the finetuning leading to a competition.

And for the record: I focus on powerlifting / strongman.. so not biased at all, just stating what i see in the gym.

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Just saying it isnt an isolation exercise... and for sure bench pressing is functional... pushing someone off you for example, or anything that requires pushing for that matter.

Flat bench press is closer to an isolation work-out than it is a functional one Hence why most people suck at it in the early going

 

[No Skill Gap]

Flat bench press is closer to an isolation work-out than it is a functional one Hence why most people suck at it in the early going

It's a compound lift. It's definitely not an isolation movement.

 

[Benoitthegr8]

There’s a sweet medium between muscular size, functionality, and cardiovascular limitations... most good athletes figure this out, functionality trumps size and aesthetics

 

[Deleted member 466273]

It's a compound lift. It's definitely not an isolation movement.

It's the same disconnect either way. Combat systems tend to engage most of the body as a unison. That said, there are aspect of gym train which does fall under functional strength.

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Not to mention that the vast majority of successful bodybuilders also do powerlifting and heavy weight low reps. Everyone who likes getting big and strong likes hitting a new 1RM

With todays supplements I'm not so sure they do. They look mostly roided from top to bottom. The bodybuilder in the clip looks however like he put in the hours

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Looking at that, it does also seem as as if wrestling penalizes very tall people since their center of gravity is so high, which affects their takedowns defense

 

[No Skill Gap]

It's the same disconnect either way. Combat systems tend to engage most of the body as a unison. That said, there are aspect of gym train which does fall under functional strength.

Yeah I definitely don't think benching is that important, especially for a specific sport. Clearly not.

But at the same time it's pretty safe to say someone who can bench 315 vs someone who can barely bench 135 WITH the same skills and athleticism in fighting, obviously the stronger man has a huge advantage.

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Yeah I definitely don't think benching is that important, especially for a specific sport. Clearly not.

But at the same time it's pretty safe to say someone who can bench 315 vs someone who can barely bench 135 WITH the same skills and athleticism in fighting, obviously the stronger man has a huge advantage.

You can't say bench 315 pounds as a blanket statement. Everything is in relation to your weight, which is why bodybuilders aren't overly strong despite very impressive lifts. The more you weigh, the more force you excert, the easier it is to lift a weight. It's actually the same principle as the pound for pound punching power.

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Their problem isn’t strength it’s endurance, they usually minimise cardio. Of course you could also say they have no technique and a shallow/empty move pool as well.

Bodybuilders have much better cardio than powerlifters. It's just not cardio for martial arts