Social WR Lounge v262: Pansy Division

What mini power do you choose?

  • You can always magically add 15 minutes to anything you're supposed to be on time to

    Votes: 3 7.5%

  • In two conversations a day you can effortlessly make small talk that goes well

    Votes: 5 12.5%

  • Three times a month you can go an entire day without needing to use the bathroom

    Votes: 1 2.5%

  • Four times a month you can feel completely full without needing to eat

    Votes: 5 12.5%

  • Five times a month you can fall asleep perfectly when you decide too

    Votes: 26 65.0%
  • Total voters
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Falsedawn said:
There's a thread about the Olympics clarifying their anti-politics rule and they've taken it to be a ban on BLM specifically. Of course since BLM bad, Olympics have to be good, so they've now elevated it to a borderline religious institution.
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The Olympics ain't happening this year.

Japan may have the torch folks running right now but their numbers are spiking and I would wager it gets canned again.
 
Trotsky said:
I realize I have a lot of political triggers, and I'm not working on it, but I don't think there is any argument that pisses me off more than "server and fast food jobs aren't supposed to be able to support a family - they're for teenagers!" Saw some guy comment that with "if we pay them career wages, cheeseburgers will cost $21.50!" added on top at the end.

Beyond being just stupid and never based on actual realities of the industries, it's explicitly saying that you want to exploit someone for convenience. That cheaper cheeseburgers mean so much to you that you want other people to live in poverty in order to provide it.
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That's a kind of jerky way to put it, but we should address poverty (separate issue from inequality or optimal distribution and ideal MWs) through direct cash transfers rather than trying to engineer it so that every job pays enough to support an arbitrary number of people. The other one is more annoying because it's part of a class of bad arguments that are really poisonous. Almost every policy change has tradeoffs, but people have a hard time being careful to accurately represent the size of potential bad effects (in that specific case, could a MW hike raise the minimum prices at which a business can survive? Sure, but the level of the increase would be very small, and the firms affected likely have minimal pricing power--whatever one thinks about MW, that's not an important counter), which in turn means that other people are incentivized not to acknowledge any bad effects, which turns the whole argument into a charade. People aren't examining the evidence and reasoning to find out the truth; they're just using whatever hammers they can find to hit the other guy with.
 
Jack V Savage said:
That's a kind of jerky way to put it, but we should address poverty (separate issue from inequality or optimal distribution and ideal MWs) through direct cash transfers rather than trying to engineer it so that every job pays enough to support an arbitrary number of people. The other one is more annoying because it's part of a class of bad arguments that are really poisonous. Almost every policy change has tradeoffs, but people have a hard time being careful to accurately represent the size of potential bad effects (in that specific case, could a MW hike raise the minimum prices at which a business can survive? Sure, but the level of the increase would be very small, and the firms affected likely have minimal pricing power--whatever one thinks about MW, that's not an important counter), which in turn means that other people are incentivized not to acknowledge any bad effects, which turns the whole argument into a charade. People aren't examining the evidence and reasoning to find out the truth; they're just using whatever hammers they can find to hit the other guy with.
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When you say direct cash transfers do you mean something like an UBI where they deposit that to you on a monthly or every other month basis? And would that be done by the Federal level or the State level?

I ask as my state is a dipshit. I filed my taxes back in February, Federal and State. I got my Federal return literally the first week you could in March... I'm still waiting on my State one.... over 2 months later.
 
JDragon said:
Guys, if I were to start an ignore list, and if I were to use the list of folks saying they would never in their lives get vaccinated against the rona, would that be a bad choice?

I am really thinking whether my WR experience would suffer. Check it out. Maybe I would need to sort out manually a couple of them, but maybe not?
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Rob, GtheMVP, and Yehudim are among the best right-leaning posters here. You'd be missing out if you didn't see their stuff. Corinthian at least occasionally puts some effort into his posts so if you want to understand standard thinking among his set, he's a good one to read. Whale starts some OK threads, though his own contributions are poor. But generally, yeah, I don't think your experience would suffer at all.
 
Gregolian said:
The Olympics ain't happening this year.

Japan may have the torch folks running right now but their numbers are spiking and I would wager it gets canned again.
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Pretty sure Japan doesn't want to do it but they're still getting pressured by the IOC to do it.
 
Gregolian said:
The Olympics ain't happening this year.

Japan may have the torch folks running right now but their numbers are spiking and I would wager it gets canned again.
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Yeah, everything has gone no audience again and it fucking sucks. I hope NJPW doesn't go on hiatus again.
 
Rational Poster said:
Pretty sure Japan doesn't want to do it but they're still getting pressured by the IOC to do it.
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That's how it feels when I see it on TV. We get NHK at the house so I see it during the TV Japan news segments and you get this feeling even the newscasters, who... IMO are far better at at least sounding impartial than American ones, are getting annoyed with the farce of the torch running as they don't want the Olympics to go.

Falsedawn said:
Yeah, everything has gone no audience again and it fucking sucks. I hope NJPW doesn't go on hiatus again.
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Same. Then there's the bullshit China ones next year.
 
Gregolian said:
That's how it feels when I see it on TV. We get NHK at the house so I see it during the TV Japan news segments and you get this feeling even the newscasters, who... IMO are far better at at least sounding impartial than American ones, are getting annoyed with the farce of the torch running as they don't want the Olympics to go.


Same. Then there's the bullshit China ones next year.
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I never asked, are you fluent in Nipponspeech?
 
JDragon said:
I never asked, are you fluent in Nipponspeech?
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I took three years of it in high school.

I can sit and hear a conversation, watch anime and have a basic understanding of what they're talking about. I can read it and get an idea of what I read. I can't speak or write it worth a shit though. The sentence structure makes my head go bananas when I try to construct a sentence.

 
Gregolian said:
When you say direct cash transfers do you mean something like an UBI where they deposit that to you on a monthly or every other month basis? And would that be done by the Federal level or the State level?

I ask as my state is a dipshit. I filed my taxes back in February, Federal and State. I got my Federal return literally the first week you could in March... I'm still waiting on my State one.... over 2 months later.
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First question: yeah. Second question: one or the other or both.

You wouldn't be someone targeted here, though. Pre-transfer poverty in the developed world is mostly about non-workers, who are mostly children, the elderly, and the disabled. We already reduce elderly poverty from about 45% pre-transfer to just under 10% post-transfer (mostly SS). We don't do nearly as good a job with other groups (including smaller ones, like the unemployed), though that looks to be changing (we've done great with the unemployed lately, and we just took a huge step toward fixing child poverty).

My understanding is that you're around the national median in terms of income and childless so as a practical matter, we can't really do transfers to boost your income (I mean you personally, sure, but not everyone at the median). What gov't can do for people like you, IMO, is aggressive pursuit of full employment, getting out of the way of housing development, increased immigration, and something about healthcare. Of course, you should also benefit from the peace of mind of knowing that if you fall into high-risk categories (have kids, lose your job, become disabled, etc.), you'll be OK.
 
Jack V Savage said:
First question: yeah. Second question: one or the other or both.

You wouldn't be someone targeted here, though. Pre-transfer poverty in the developed world is mostly about non-workers, who are mostly children, the elderly, and the disabled. We already reduce elderly poverty from about 45% pre-transfer to just under 10% post-transfer (mostly SS). We don't do nearly as good a job with other groups (including smaller ones, like the unemployed), though that looks to be changing (we've done great with the unemployed lately, and we just took a huge step toward fixing child poverty).

My understanding is that you're around the national median in terms of income and childless so as a practical matter, we can't really do transfers to boost your income (I mean you personally, sure, but not everyone at the median). What gov't can do for people like you, IMO, is aggressive pursuit of full employment, getting out of the way of housing development, increased immigration, and something about healthcare. Of course, you should also benefit from the peace of mind of knowing that if you fall into high-risk categories (have kids, lose your job, become disabled, etc.), you'll be OK.
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I wasn't really asking necessarily for me, just using my experience with the State getting tax returns back for why I'm not a huge fan of leaving this to the states. I can't imagine other states are better about getting this stuff out as it's been over 60 days since the day I filed and I haven't seen it yet.

The worst part, you can't file a complaint until its 120 days after the date you filed or March 1, WHIEVER IS LATER.
 
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Was on vacation, decided to flip on the co main and main from UFC over the weekend for second monitor while doing auto cad drawings

Oh my gosh, no one was talking about it, but that liver kick on Cub Swanson was just beautiful. Like, that delayed reaction drop and his body just shuts down

And that sound since no fans at the event. Just beautiful
 
Sketch said:
I find it peculiar you spent so many years in the HW, you strike me as the kind of poster that would absolutely loathe that environment.
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When I joined Sherdog, I only knew one person in real life who was a hardcore MMA fan (he's the guy who told me to check out the site--2001 account). There was a lot of good MMA-related content at the time. The TUF invasion started to ruin it, and it's just continually gone downhill since.
 
Jack V Savage said:
When I joined Sherdog, I only knew one person in real life who was a hardcore MMA fan (he's the guy who told me to check out the site--2001 account). There was a lot of good MMA-related content at the time. The TUF invasion started to ruin it, and it's just continually gone downhill since.
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It had some golden moments post-TUF though.

PositiveBalance melting down not once but TWICE when Frankie beat BJ. To the point he lost his mod powers after the second one and then was banned shortly after that.

Um.... the GSP/BJ bullshit years?
 
I'm going to do this response a little different. I'll tag each poster and break it up, each part I respond to I'm going to assign a song. Everything I do has a soundtrack, every quote will have an attached son that you should listen to as you read it. If you do it (even if you're not who I'm respond to) let me know if it actually works, I've been working on something.

I'll also spoiler my posts so those that don't want to read my stuff can scroll by faster. I tend to greatly value when someone responds to me.

@JDragon
Yes, there are people here on the rather boring side of things like myself, having been brought up in stable surroundings who have the kind of non-extreme life you describe. For example, I cannot imagine @Lead ever spent more than he set himself a budget for on a night out :)

But there are also a lot of people here who have been through substance abuse, physical abuse, psychological problems and so on who will listen, I am sure.
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But what does boring truly mean? I assume boredom means when you start disassociating. Man let me tell you, I find the suburbs exciting. God can you imagine.

I try to control jealousy, but I always wonder what that must have been like. I want to b e a parent one day, but the fear of being my father is quite concerning.

I realized yesterday the first time my fingers pranced upon a keyboard was on a word processor on the floor about the abuse from my step mother, she said it would be for the courts and Child Protective Services would save me and my sister. CPS never came and here I am lol.

I find my posts likely annoying due to the density and the things I talk about.
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There once was a lion somewhere inside
Its teeth have all fallen out
And though I keep trying to face my pride
I'll never make you proud

So I don't want to be different anymore
I don't want to be different anymore
I've changed
No I, I'm trying to be different than before
I'm trying to be different than before
I changed
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I try to be the rock for my wife. I believe having an anchor is quite important. Does not have to be a partner, it can also be a set of surroundings. In any case, I think you should never overestimate the influence your brain has and never underestimate the influence of the social setting. Also important with therapy. If you don't feel your therapist, if you do not trust, then that is not the right one and you need to try to look for someone else.

Based on what you said, I think (but I am biased) someone with a background in systemic or family therapy might be good. Not sure you need a cognitive-behavioral approach or the couch approach.

Key and goal of it all IMO, developing positivity and appreciation when dealing with yourself. You are important and your life is important. Even if you don't believe me there just yet. But the fact that you apologize when you open up and share your feelings and your story with us just shows me you need to learn to show yourself some love.

Kitchen psychology: you are kind and empathic when dealing with the socially weak, but when dealing with yourself, you often seem harsh. You assign blame to yourself instead of surroundings.
Basically a leftist only for others, but full Republican on yourself :)
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But isn't the anchor always based in codependency? I don't mean that in a bad way, but it involves putting your faith in something to carry you though. Honestly though, the reality is I'm only important in the overt happiness I offer. If I died tomorrow it wouldn't really matter. My family calls me every so often and I hear " I thought you would have killed yourself by now"

I am harsh with myself, that's okay. I deserve it.

I hate to see you post something like that. For one I am sure we all have our own demons, mine are just really lame and embarrassing so they don't make good fodder for Sherdog posts.

Sometimes people who are experiencing mental health issues will wonder if there's something deep missing form their lives like some greater purpose or family. But in many cases there are simple things they can do to improve their mental health in a big way. One thing is sleep and if I had to guess sleep problems are probably contributing at least in part to your woes here. I get that on some level that's going to be hard to solve due to the nature of your work and given the pandemic you gotta do what you gotta do. But improving your sleep is a big early step you could take to improve your mental health.

To that end cocaine and alcohol are probably only making it worse. Obviously I am a bit of a square these days and my gut instinct is to tell you to just quit those things. But I also believe that giving people advice you know they won't take is as good as not giving them advice at all so I'll say that you at least need to drastically change your relationship to those drugs. They should be slaves to you, not you to them. If you feel that you need them to function on a regular basis then that's a sign that they've enslaved you. The sad part is that, from my cursory reading of the relationship between coke and sleep, your problems will get worse before they get better if you quit. And that rough withdrawal period is very likely to end with you falling right back into the problem.

I know I struggle a bit with marijuana dependence and while its nowhere near as bad as dealing with those drugs it can still effect one's sleep cycle pretty badly. I took a ~5 month break recently and having the fog lifted was great. Thing is coke is a bit more intense so depending on your level of dependence quitting cold turkey could be risky.
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it's not a competition, pain is pain, and a lot of us hurt, as to the drugs, I don't do China as much as you would think. I've never slept well, I fuckin love the night. I do get what you mean by withdrawal problem. Here. This song explains how I feel. Bruh I don't worry about cocaine and liquor, I just want to be fucking happy again because I'm really concerned I can't be happy anymore. We always shame a crutch but we never ask why they were limping in the first place.

Don't question the crutch, question why they're leaning on it.
 
Gregolian said:
It had some golden moments post-TUF though.

PositiveBalance melting down not once but TWICE when Frankie beat BJ. To the point he lost his mod powers after the second one and then was banned shortly after that.

Um.... the GSP/BJ bullshit years?
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He came back with another account but left again.

Edit: wasn't sure if it was banned. It's not
 
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