Social WR Lounge v252: Move to C T Pa Town?

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The joke is that Hawaiian isn't going to open many career doors so it juxtaposed with that part of your post. Outside of HI it's pretty useless, unlike say Spanish.
Oh they have other language classes too like Japanese and Spanish you choose another language as well. But Hawaiian is required. It’s a school for Hawaiian kids, part of why it was founded was to prevent the cultural genocide that was occurring when the US made it illegal to teach Hawaiian in schools. The language was endangered at one point. Sometimes money comes secondary to preserving your people from extinction.

My sons are already learning Spanish. One mom is Mexican y’know.

Sorry I didn’t realize you were kinda joking around though. I take this stuff kinda seriously, maybe too seriously but hey.
I hope none of the registration process takes place online or you're FUCKED
you’re so mean
 
Oh they have other language classes too like Japanese and Spanish you choose another language as well. But Hawaiian is required. It’s a school for Hawaiian kids, part of why it was founded was to prevent the cultural genocide that was occurring when the US made it illegal to teach Hawaiian in schools. The language was endangered at one point. Sometimes money comes secondary to preserving your people from extinction.

My sons are already learning Spanish. One mom is Mexican y’know.

Sorry I didn’t realize you were kinda joking around though. I take this stuff kinda seriously, maybe too seriously but hey.

you’re so mean
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Oh they have other language classes too like Japanese and Spanish you choose another language as well. But Hawaiian is required. It’s a school for Hawaiian kids, part of why it was founded was to prevent the cultural genocide that was occurring when the US made it illegal to teach Hawaiian in schools. The language was endangered at one point. Sometimes money comes secondary to preserving your people from extinction.

My sons are already learning Spanish. One mom is Mexican y’know.

Sorry I didn’t realize you were kinda joking around though. I take this stuff kinda seriously, maybe too seriously but hey.

you’re so mean

Yeah, brah, just giving you a little cultural ribbing.

Spanish is a wise choice.
 
Sounds like the guy did enough to deserve it, and that he was on drugs.




So no walls either?

Turns out he was some rugby player so it explains why he was over power them
Tough to say just from that. But an officer sustained multiple facial fractures and a concussion and the suspect was on top of them before he was shot.

Really need more information but it’s possible it was justified. Seems like the three officers should have been able to overpower this one guy but maybe not.

The guy was a rugby player. His stats say he was 220. The cops were middle aged. The one that suffered facial injuries is reported to be in his 40s. A problem in the Sheldon Halceck shooting where the Hawaiian guy got killed with a taser was the cops were something like 130 and 115 lbs. It was a small chinese cop and a woman cop. If it was something like that again I could see
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I don't how important this really is but one thing to consider is that Americans have some of the largest average home sizes in the world. I think only Australia has larger homes than us(just imagine @Ruprecht in a palace and thinking its a normal house).

Bigger houses don't just take up more space but they also require more air conditioning which is the largest consumer of energy in any given household so larger houses are also less sustainable. You can get around that with passive heating/cooling but I imagine very few houses are built that way.

I wonder if that might be a fruitful sort of zoning law, something that mandates or at least incentivizes sustainable designs. On the surface that seems like more red tape that would block increased supply of housing but some cities have template houses which, if you decide to build them, offer expedited permitting. In the case I read it was multi-family housing so the purpose was to pump out units but you could take that approach and add a dimension of sustainability by making them multi-family, passively heated/cool templates

I think home size is a factor. The city is always going to have smaller houses than the suburbs and cities are the ones with the affordability issues. If you don't mind an 80-mile commute, there are still homes in the suburbs with big ass, cheap houses.

Maybe people get so accustomed to big houses (especially in the south) that developers are hesitant to make too many units of, say, under 1000 square feet because they don't think they'll sell. And they may be right.

Everybody shits on NYC for its high stress and all that but they really have to be the most energy efficient city in the US. Small houses so less A/C, little to no driving so less pollution, no lawns so less water waste, etc.
 
But does more construction actually prevent them getting priced out of that specific area? The added construction that is actually affordable could be built in a different part of town and the residents get priced out anyway.

I think that's the key part of the disagreement here, many people are skeptical that developers will want to build affordable housing and will instead prefer to build luxury housing. I would imagine that to some extent its kind of a folk belief that has some truth to it but is often exaggerated.

I think you are right, they can still get priced out. But it’s not the new construction that is pricing them out, it’s the market forces that are making the place more desirable. It’s the new tech firm moving in, the expansion of the downtown population, etc. Barring the new construction would not solve any of that. So make more homes or bar the new tech firm from coming in.
 
Been playing Ghosts of Tsushima and it has been really great so far. One of the better games I’ve played. Granted I don’t play many but this one has been fantastic so far.
 
I think I did make that point somewhere , that while added housing will almost certainly reduce housing costs the timeline isn't something that inspires confidence in first time homebuyers like Greg.

Sure, not saying that the solution to the housing crisis is to focus on economic inequality but rather bringing it up to demonstrate how that fundamental problem in society relates to many, seemingly separate ones. So a free market in a relatively equitable society might allocate housing more effectively than one that has a lot of inequality which could enable opportunistic landlords.

The other free market issue is something that was brought up by @Andy Capp which is the attractiveness of short term rental properties. That doesn't apply to every city but it definitely does to ones attractive to tourists like New Orleans, NYC, Miami, SanFran, LA and so on.


Just to chime in , actually I think fixing income inequality is the real solution. The market is going to give the richest people the best locations and push everyone else further out. The overall supply will be better but redistribution is the way to make f”airer”
 
Really hasn't even been an opening for the introduction of evidence. That's a bad sign. IMO, if there's a disagreement, what you generally want to do is look for conflicting predictions. But I'm still not quite clear on where the points of disagreement are. Just sounds like a couple of people are generally mad about housing prices and looking to fight.

start a new debate topic, Jack.

1) welfare reform
2) US presence in the middle east
3) war on drugs/legalization of drugs.
 
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