Social WR Lounge v250: The Discord strikes back

[Deleted member 539235]

It means cunt.

soz lad, already nicked that one and in my circles it now means wanker

 

[A Lurker]

soz lad, already nicked that one and in my circles it now means wanker

I’ve never felt so proud.

Also a mickey mouser nicking something, etc, etc

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

NEMESIS

 

[LazaRRus]

Tbh I find it a bit silly and lame to see the pronouns listed when its obvious either way. Gina Carano was being bugged about this even though its obvious what her pronouns are.

If you're a transwoman with a five o clock shadow then yeah maybe put your pronouns in your bio so people don't get confused. I get that normalizing it as something we all do makes it more comfortable for trans and non-binary people to do it but uh yeah not really fan of it when its not necessary.

Spot on

 

[LazaRRus]

Go with the universal ‘Bud’ or ‘buddy’ next time

You forgot "mate"

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

You forgot "mate"

I also go with "homie."

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

Nobody's ever looked at Ted Cruz like this @Trotsky

 

[Confucamus]

Tbh I find it a bit silly and lame to see the pronouns listed when its obvious either way. Gina Carano was being bugged about this even though its obvious what her pronouns are.

If you're a transwoman with a five o clock shadow then yeah maybe put your pronouns in your bio so people don't get confused. I get that normalizing it as something we all do makes it more comfortable for trans and non-binary people to do it but uh yeah not really fan of it when its not necessary.

About maybe a year back, I went to a Starbucks and the barista who was taking my order was clearly a MTF transgender. It was just a skinny dude, no fake tits or surgery. Turtle neck couldn't hide the Adam's Apple. But the name tag said "Heather." When Heather gave me my card back said "Have a nice day." I just responded with "Thanks, brother." There was a very visible pause and a slow lowering of the head as she went to take the next customer's order. I felt fucking awful. I wanted to apologize, but was afraid that would make things worse. I really didn't mean to hurt their feelings.

It was just instinctive, you know? I'm 36 years old and it's always been "Yes, sir./No, sir." "Yes, ma'am/No, ma'am." "What's up, boys?/Good afternoon ladies." Which comes about based on me viewing them as male or female. I don't mind calling people by their preferred pronoun, but I worry about how "misgendering" people will soon be met with severe personal and/or professional costs before we, as a society, have adapted to it. This whole preferred pronouns thing is like a year old, and people are already getting in trouble for misgendering someone. I think the trans people should be a bit more patient about it, TBH.

 

[essie]

About maybe a year back, I went to a Starbucks and the barista who was taking my order was clearly a MTF transgender. It was just a skinny dude, no fake tits or surgery. Turtle neck couldn't hide the Adam's Apple. But the name tag said "Heather." When Heather gave me my card back said "Have a nice day." I just responded with "Thanks, brother." There was a very visible pause and a slow lowering of the head as she went to take the next customer's order. I felt fucking awful. I wanted to apologize, but was afraid that would make things worse. I really didn't mean to hurt their feelings.

It was just instinctive, you know? I'm 36 years old and it's always been "Yes, sir./No, sir." "Yes, ma'am/No, ma'am." "What's up, boys?/Good afternoon ladies." Which comes about based on me viewing them as male or female. I don't mind calling people by their preferred pronoun, but I worry about how "misgendering" people will soon be met with severe personal and/or professional costs before we, as a society, have adapted to it. This whole preferred pronouns thing is like a year old, and people are already getting in trouble for misgendering someone. I think the trans people should be a bit more patient about it, TBH.

I just think everyone has to be patient with each other. It’s probably scary for a Trans person just because they are used to so much ridicule. They have that defensive attitude.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

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It was just instinctive, you know? I'm 36 years old and it's always been "Yes, sir./No, sir." "Yes, ma'am/No, ma'am." "What's up, boys?/Good afternoon ladies." Which comes about based on me viewing them as male or female. I don't mind calling people by their preferred pronoun, but I worry about how "misgendering" people will soon be met with severe personal and/or professional costs before we, as a society, have adapted to it. This whole preferred pronouns thing is like a year old, and people are already getting in trouble for misgendering someone. I think the trans people should be a bit more patient about it, TBH.

they should absolutely be more patient with this...
especially with people who do not intend offense.

I have another colleague, clearly a female but dresssees up as a guy, prefers "him/her".

In my first month or so, I fucked up his pronouns several times, again, not my intention. thankfully he was cool and understanding about it.

 

[Deorum]

i swear, sherdog is the only place i have ever seen where people throw around accusations like it's nothing. irl of course you never hear it because people would think you're a loon if you started saying this that.
never seen it on facebook, and not even on that cesspool that is twitter.
but on sherdog, it's fair game i see. very strange. i wonder if it's only an extreme form of virtue signaling.

it's absolutely idiotic the way it's thrown around here.
absolutely idiotic.

I'm all for piling on Larry, but this forum is surprisingly uptight and not recognizing the fact that there are different age of consent levels across countries and within states. And a 17 year old is clearly not a kid (even if possibly immature). So is Larry a creep? Possibly. Is he what cannot be said? Surely not, going off available info.

@Amerikuracana is an ephebo (insert rolleyes.gif) which FTR, can still be as creepy, predatory, skeevy, etc. as anybody wants to consider it. Is that even worth the distinction? Yes, unless you believe sex with older adolescents is equivalent and on the same level as being sexually attracted to and abusing prepubescent children - Fuck No, IMO - because that's what philia is.

What do gay dudes have to do with you banging girls who aren't old enough to vote?

I've reported well over a dozen different teenagers on geo-social apps who sent me unsolicited sexually explicit pics and/because there's no way in hell they were 18+. There's way too many curious, horny, lonely teenage boys on those platforms and the vulnerability makes me cringe. So yeah, was hardly shocked to read this; double not shocked considering the onset of my own very early sexual activity growing up (albeit with other boys my age).

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/ct-life-lgbtq-teen-grindr-use-20180517-story.html

A new Northwestern Medicine study (published in the Journal of Adolescent Health) found that more than 50 percent of sexually active gay and bisexual boys ages 14 to 17 use dating (also known as hook-up) apps like Grindr (21+) and Scruff (18+) to find new friends and boyfriends.

The full article is worth a read:

Finding one’s community is integral to adolescent development. The members of that community create space for relationships to grow. For some teens, that community is found on dating apps meant for adult gay men — apps that only require a user enter a birth date that coincides with the site’s legal terms of service.

A new Northwestern Medicine study (published in the Journal of Adolescent Health) found that more than 50 percent of sexually active gay and bisexual boys ages 14 to 17 use dating (also known as hook-up) apps like Grindr (21+) and Scruff (18+) to find new friends and boyfriends.

“I was surprised we didn’t know this information when we started the study, but a lot of folks don’t do research on people under the age of 18, especially on LGBTQ teens under the age of 18, for a variety of reasons,” said Dr. Kathryn Macapagal, an author on the study and research assistant professor of medical social sciences at the Institute for Sexual and Gender Minority Health and Wellbeing at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine. “But we found that teens in this study were super excited that somebody was paying attention with what was going on in their lives and how these apps played a role in their sexual development and coming-out process,” she said.

Macapagal says gay and bisexual male teens turn to the apps to meet others in that community because they feel there are few opportunies to do so where they live. App features might also appeal to those not as open about their sexual identity, or who are navigating dating and sex with same-gender partners for the first time.

“Youth who use these apps are, many times, also looking for partners on Facebook, Instagram, Tinder, etc.,” Macapagal added. “If you’re using something like Grindr, the likelihood of you having a sexual relationship with this person is higher. But we also found that although you might have had sexual relations with these folks, these folks might have turned into friends, they might have turned into boyfriends. So there is some evidence that youth are getting lots more out of these apps than just sexual relationships.”

Dr. Hector Torres, chief program officer at the Center on Halsted, an LGBT community center in Lakeview, said he found the study to be “alarming and surprising.” So did Denise DeRosa, mother of three and cyber-safety consultant from Bethesda, Md.

“The fact that they’re on at all is definitely concerning,” she said. “There should be some type of mechanism to prevent this. As much as we parents can do, we can’t do everything, so I think these apps have to take some of the responsibility for making sure that their environment is safe – that there’s some sort of functioning guardrail to keep anybody under 18 from using it.”

DeRosa said she understands why a teen seeks out connections, but she is adamant about being careful when doing so online. She suggests parents step up their game to find out what their teen’s favorite apps are and which ones they stay on the longest.

“I wouldn’t want anyone to go meet someone without really, fully vetting these people or maybe telling a parent,” she said. “That’s where the dangers are, and I think that kind of goes across whether you’re heterosexual, homosexual, transgender or lesbian — we don’t want 14-year-olds seeking to date people 21 and older.”

But Torres cautioned that pressing for better youth protections on hookup apps, is probably a losing game. He said it’s too easy for less scrupulous apps to jump in and serve LGBTQ teens.

“Sexuality in adolescence is such a force that, no matter what we do, it’s going to happen,” he said. “The sex or hooking up apps are scary because of their bluntness and access, yet Facebook, Snapchat and other apps are often used the same way. We just don’t study them as much.”

The study also highlights just how little parents, educators and health care providers know about how teens spend their time on apps and online technology that is constantly changing. This may have parents feeling they have little to no control over the situation, but Torres said they do have control over communication.

“If parents have good communication with children and know that their children want to meet more people like them, and they can meet that need, then the app becomes less necessary,” he said. “And there are places like Center on Halsted where young people can meet other young people and entertain themselves in a healthy environment and develop skills, and it’s supervised.”

Torres said it helps to have honest conversations with teens: What does it mean to have sex? If sex is going to happen, with whom should it happen? When should it happen? What are the risks, and how can you best protect yourself?

“What we do know from studies of heterosexual adolescents is that communication with parents can really help in sexual health and well-being,” Torres said. “And what happens with the LGBT community is that parents may be less comfortable talking about sex, and even less about these apps.”

 

[Jack V Savage]

About maybe a year back, I went to a Starbucks and the barista who was taking my order was clearly a MTF transgender. It was just a skinny dude, no fake tits or surgery. Turtle neck couldn't hide the Adam's Apple. But the name tag said "Heather." When Heather gave me my card back said "Have a nice day." I just responded with "Thanks, brother." There was a very visible pause and a slow lowering of the head as she went to take the next customer's order. I felt fucking awful. I wanted to apologize, but was afraid that would make things worse. I really didn't mean to hurt their feelings.

It was just instinctive, you know? I'm 36 years old and it's always been "Yes, sir./No, sir." "Yes, ma'am/No, ma'am." "What's up, boys?/Good afternoon ladies." Which comes about based on me viewing them as male or female. I don't mind calling people by their preferred pronoun, but I worry about how "misgendering" people will soon be met with severe personal and/or professional costs before we, as a society, have adapted to it. This whole preferred pronouns thing is like a year old, and people are already getting in trouble for misgendering someone. I think the trans people should be a bit more patient about it, TBH.

It's a minefield, man. I was at a bar the other day, and without thinking, I greeted the bartender with my usual, "hey, my fellow bepenised-at-birth-American, how's it (i.e., that natural penis of yours) hanging?" And he was like, "Jack, I'm a FTM trans person. And also, I'm here on a work visa. You didn't know?" I was like, "shit, no, I'm so sorry. I wasn't thinking." Learned a lesson about making assumptions that day! But he was cool about it. And yes, I say "i.e." in casual conversations.

 

[Andy Capp]

they should absolutely be more patient with this...
especially with people who do not intend offense.

I have another colleague, clearly a female but dresssees up as a guy, prefers "him/her".

In my first month or so, I fucked up his pronouns several times, again, not my intention. thankfully he was cool and understanding about it.

So, even though "he was cool and understanding about it", you think "they should absolutely be more patient" than they already are?

 

[Trotsky]

@Social Distance Warrior In re Mick's "hordes of uneducated migrants who don't share our cultural values"

just out of curiosity, what part did you object to?

the usage of the term "hordes", or the "uneducated" part?

Mostly the "not the same cultural values" part.

It's hysterical that Mick and @HereticBD would still stick behind the "cultural values" argument after American conservatives spent years knowingly spreading lies and pretending to believe laughable claims, cheering on discrimination on the basis of religion, trying to overturn a democratic election, and applauding known efforts to disenfranchise racial minorities on objectively baseless grounds.

I mean, what values do American conservatives hold that they don't? Belief in democracy? LOL, nope. Belief in secularism? LOL, nope. Belief in multiculturalism? LOL, nope. Support for science? LOL, nope. Support of rights for homosexuals? LOL, nope.

The American right is ideologically and ethically indistinguishable from - or, better yet, definitively less politically defensible than - conservatives in Arab and African countries. The thing is.....those foreign conservatives have an excuse on the basis of largely not having access to great education and not having instantaneous access to all the information in the world through high-speed internet.

I would rather someone just grow some balls [insert joke about liberals believing genitals don't matter, etc.] and say they believe/know nonwhites are genetically inferior or incapable of rational thought.

 

[Curmudgeon]

@Social Distance Warrior In re Mick's "hordes of uneducated migrants who don't share our cultural values"



Mostly the "not the same cultural values" part.

It's hysterical that Mick and @HereticBD would still stick behind the "cultural values" argument after American conservatives spent years knowingly spreading lies and pretending to believe laughable claims, cheering on discrimination on the basis of religion, trying to overturn a democratic election, and applauding known efforts to disenfranchise racial minorities on objectively baseless grounds.

I mean, what values do American conservatives hold that they don't? Belief in democracy? LOL, nope. Belief in secularism? LOL, nope. Belief in multiculturalism? LOL, nope. Support for science? LOL, nope. Support of rights for homosexuals? LOL, nope.

The American right is ideologically and ethically indistinguishable from - or, better yet, definitively less politically defensible than - conservatives in Arab and African countries. The thing is.....those foreign conservatives have an excuse on the basis of largely not having access to great education and not having instantaneous access to all the information in the world through high-speed internet.

I would rather someone just grow some balls [insert joke about liberals believing genitals don't matter, etc.] and say they believe/know nonwhites are genetically inferior or incapable of rational thought.

@Madmick

 

[HereticBD]

@Social Distance Warrior In re Mick's "hordes of uneducated migrants who don't share our cultural values"



Mostly the "not the same cultural values" part.

It's hysterical that Mick and @HereticBD would still stick behind the "cultural values" argument after American conservatives spent years knowingly spreading lies and pretending to believe laughable claims, cheering on discrimination on the basis of religion, trying to overturn a democratic election, and applauding known efforts to disenfranchise racial minorities on objectively baseless grounds.

I mean, what values do American conservatives hold that they don't? Belief in democracy? LOL, nope. Belief in secularism? LOL, nope. Belief in multiculturalism? LOL, nope. Support for science? LOL, nope. Support of rights for homosexuals? LOL, nope.

The American right is ideologically and ethically indistinguishable from - or, better yet, definitively less politically defensible than - conservatives in Arab and African countries. The thing is.....those foreign conservatives have an excuse on the basis of largely not having access to great education and not having instantaneous access to all the information in the world through high-speed internet.

I would rather someone just grow some balls [insert joke about liberals believing genitals don't matter, etc.] and say they believe/know nonwhites are genetically inferior or incapable of rational thought.

Why you gotta run to the Lounge, you little girl?

There's a perfectly good thread where you could've addressed this. You cowards are hilarious.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Why you gotta run to the Lounge, you little girl?

There's a perfectly good thread where you could've addressed this. You cowards are hilarious.

It's what sniveling weasels do.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

So, even though "he was cool and understanding about it", you think "they should absolutely be more patient" than they already are?

I think @essie had it more right. we all need to be more patient with one another.

nothing good comes from being an asshole for no reason

 

[Trotsky]

Why you gotta run to the Lounge, you little girl?

There's a perfectly good thread where you could've addressed this. You cowards are hilarious.

That thread is about a police shooting in Minneapolis. And one that I know very little about and that, to my knowledge, has nothing to do with immigrants.

Talking about you and Mick's beliefs in cultural inferiority of immigrants in that thread would be as obvious a derail as possible. If you weren't a man child, you would recognize that.

 

[essie]

Why you gotta run to the Lounge, you little girl?

Why you gotta run to the Lounge, you little girl?

There's a perfectly good thread where you could've addressed this. You cowards are hilarious.

It's what sniveling weasels do.

I will usually post reactions to certain threads because a lot of the main ones in here have lots of racism and misogyny throughout and I just don't want to exchange ideas in that sort of thread. I don't know why it is upsetting? This place is a little more civilized.