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Someone in another thread called me a junkie lmao.
 
Social Distance Warrior said:
The difference between the example above regarding Murray is that he's merely making an observation about what pejoratives are acceptable and not acceptable in everyday conversation.
if he were to say, " my book isn't a best seller because people think I"m a redneck!!" then, yes, I would agree...that he is fully embracing victim ideology.
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This definition clearly doesn't apply to Coates, then, as he's wildly successful by any measure. But Murray is saying that the real victims are lower-middle-class white folks, and that they're entitled to something because of that, which does seem to be about victim ideology. We often see people defending Trump supporters on the grounds that of course they're mad and going to act destructively because no one cares about them. We need to feel their pain. And, hey, why not? If they're getting fucked by bad policy, we *should* make changes to address it, though not the dumbass things they want necessarily (see how Obama got funding for retraining of coal miners and a stronger safety net through, while Trump falsely promised to reopen coal mines).

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and great for you, I'm sure a lot of your success came about from knowing the right people, but you would agree that you put a tremendous amount of work into it as well, correct?

you didn't coast through life having things handed to you like ....a paris hilton, right?
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I grew up lower middle class (in a poor area), if that's what you mean. But what do you call getting praised, good grades, special opportunities, mentors (talented people telling you you have potential and they want to help you maximize the value of it), etc. without having to actually *do* anything but just what you think is expected or put in any special effort? And like I said, I did have good role models, a good family, and good friends, and connections, etc. IMO, people who say they got where they are by themselves are just showing that they don't understand how society works.
 
BEER said:
Someone in another thread called me a junkie lmao.
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Well - and no judgment here - you did justify the choice to use psychedelic drugs despite a mental health history with "it makes me feel good".

Obviously not enough for such a label but not exactly the pinnacle of responsible behaviour either MISTER BEER.
 
CubicleGangster said:
Oh but is a life changing accident. You may never have the same mobility and quality of life you had prior to the fall.
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Gregolian said:
One CC fully paid off as of tomorrow.

Time to transfer all my subscription shit like Netflix, Hulu, Crunchyroll to that card and put it to autopay once a month.
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since Greg is going to immediately charge up his card he just paid off I may need a huge settlement to bail out my adopted E son...
 
Sara said:
I think maybe just to see how I’m doing?
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Tell them you were napping because you frequently lose consciousness due to the concussion you sustained

also talk about your back injury
 
Tycho Brah said:
Well - and no judgment here - you did justify the choice to use psychedelic drugs despite a mental health history with "it makes me feel good".

Obviously not enough for such a label but not exactly the pinnacle of responsible behaviour either MISTER BEER.
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Sure. I use drugs and enjoy them.

But junkie implies addiction, at the very least, and usually used to refer to someone who suffers from severe addiction.

Edit: Also, both magic mushrooms and LSD have shown some promise in helping people who suffer from certain mental illnesses. Neither are particularly detrimental unless you have more severe mental health issues, such as schizophrenia.
 
Jack V Savage said:
This definition clearly doesn't apply to Coates, then, as he's wildly successful by any measure. But Murray is saying that the real victims are lower-middle-class white folks, and that they're entitled to something because of that, which does seem to be about victim ideology. We often see people defending Trump supporters on the grounds that of course they're mad and going to act destructively because no one cares about them. We need to feel their pain. And, hey, why not? If they're getting fucked by bad policy, we *should* make changes to address it, though not the dumbass things they want necessarily (see how Obama got funding for retraining of coal miners and a stronger safety net through, while Trump falsely promised to reopen coal mines).



I grew up lower middle class (in a poor area), if that's what you mean. But what do you call getting praised, good grades, special opportunities, mentors (talented people telling you you have potential and they want to help you maximize the value of it), etc. without having to actually *do* anything but just what you think is expected or put in any special effort? And like I said, I did have good role models, a good family, and good friends, and connections, etc. IMO, people who say they got where they are by themselves are just showing that they don't understand how society works.
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in regards to Coates, he turned his life around, went to school, found success and made a career for himself. good for him. he does espouse victim ideology in his book, which I have a problem with.

I'm not saying, "people get to where they are" simply on their own volition. yes, mentors, knowing the right people, having access to a library with a functioning wifi system and computers and having people believe in you obvious contributes.

I'm saying that in addition to having help, you were driven, and applied yourself to your goals, correct?
 
Sara said:
since Greg is going to immediately charge up his card he just paid off I may need a huge settlement to bail out my adopted E son...
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We're talking max of like $100 a month that gets paid off every month so I can use that to gain credit.
 
Tycho Brah said:
It consistently amazes me how much time is spent talking about everything but the right (or best) answer to questions and problems.
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This is exactly the issue I was having with Cubo, who wanted to hammer on whether it's "shutting down a company" to wreck its business model or replace its org structure instead of whether that's a good idea.
 
Jack V Savage said:
This is exactly the issue I was having with Cubo, who wanted to hammer on whether it's "shutting down a company" to wreck its business model or replace its org structure instead of whether that's a good idea.
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what did you guys finally settle on, in trms of the definition?
 
Social Distance Warrior said:
in regards to Coates, he turned his life around, went to school, found success and made a career for himself. good for him. he does espouse victim ideology in his book, which I have a problem with.
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Yeah, but I'm saying that you're not allowing the possibility that Murray is promoting victim ideology by talking about others being victims (it would be if he personally complained about his book sales). So if it doesn't apply to Murray, it doesn't apply to Coates. If it does apply to Coates, it also applies to Murray (and, really, most everyone).

Social Distance Warrior said:
I'm not saying, "people get to where they are" simply on their own volition. yes, mentors, knowing the right people, having access to a library with a functioning wifi system and computers and having people believe in you obvious contributes.

I'm saying that in addition to having help, you were driven, and applied yourself to your goals, correct?
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And I'm saying that I don't know that I was any more driven than anyone else. I don't know how you could even know that. What's the difference maker? Everyone's story is a big stew, with drive being one ingredient. Might or might not be a key one.
 
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