Social WR Lounge v232: But I did ask for Uranus

Best time travel movie?

  • Back to the Future

    Votes: 11 27.5%

  • Star Trek IV (with the whales)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Star Trek VIII (with the Borg)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Hot Tub Time Machine

    Votes: 3 7.5%

  • Tenet

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Terminator

    Votes: 18 45.0%

  • Butterfly Effect

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Déjà Vu

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 6 15.0%

  • Time travel movies I no like

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • Total voters
    40
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BEER said:
I couldn't agree more, bud.
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What do we do though? I can hand out Klondike bars to homeless people and volunteer at food banks, I can pat a friends back as they sob into a pillow because they lost their job and apartment and have to move back into their parents in their thirties, but outside of immediate social servitude is there a hope for the future of the country?
 
AgonyandIrony said:
What do we do though? I can hand out Klondike bars to homeless people and volunteer at food banks, I can pat a friends back as they sob into a pillow because they lost their job and apartment and have to move back into their parents in their thirties, but outside of immediate social servitude is there a hope for the future of the country?
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I can't say whether or not there is hope. I like to believe there is.

It's too early for me to really articulate, but I feel like increased increased political participation is a good sign. Even if it took 4 years of Donny to get voters out in such numbers. My most immediate fear is that the people are going to go back to sleep now that Donny is out, and undo years of work getting progressives elected nationwide. 2022 is going to be an interesting year to watch, and it will all come down to the Biden administrations plays their cards. So far, I'm not sure they're doing a great job. If voters become apathetic (again), things could get particularly nasty.
 
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BEER said:
I can't say whether or not there is hope. I like to believe there is.

It's too early for me to really articulate, but I feel like increased increased political participation is a good sign. Even if it took 4 years of Donny to get voters out in such numbers. My most immediate fear is that the people are going to go back to sleep now that Donny is out, and undo years of work getting progressives elected nationwide. 2022 is going to be an interesting year to watch, and it will all come down to the Biden administrations plays their cards. So far, I'm not sure they're doing a great job. If voters become apathetic (again), things could get particularly nasty.
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It's a curious question, of what happens next. Democratic Socialists have done incredibly well, the DSA is thriving.

Remember the women who spit on black children walking to school, are the parents of the people we associate with now. The issue is with the stacked deck the working class has to fight against. A lot of black communities are mobilized to vote on Sundays and so they cut Sunday voting in some places to explicitly hurt poor black votes, and yet the right wing smirks about these policies.

I don't think people are going to sleep about Biden. Chomsky, Brooks (RIP), Vaush and most prominent libertarian socialists believed that voting for Biden was the only option, but consistent pressure is and has to be key, but if the right wing considers Biden to be far left, we also face a difficult battle on that side of political theory, the only real option is to make sure that Republicans are finished and neoliberalism and leftism become the tango. We need to get rid of the electoral college ASAP imo.
 
AgonyandIrony said:
It was.. pretty bad. It's fun to watch as a B movie but hot damn I feel like despite the year it was released you can still buy it on VHS.
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Totally agree. By the way are you going to play anytime soon?
 
AgonyandIrony said:
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It's a curious question, of what happens next. Democratic Socialists have done incredibly well, the DSA is thriving.

Remember the women who spit on black children walking to school, are the parents of the people we associate with now. The issue is with the stacked deck the working class has to fight against. A lot of black communities are mobilized to vote on Sundays and so they cut Sunday voting in some places to explicitly hurt poor black votes, and yet the right wing smirks about these policies.

I don't think people are going to sleep about Biden. Chomsky, Brooks (RIP), Vaush and most prominent libertarian socialists believed that voting for Biden was the only option, but consistent pressure is and has to be key, but if the right wing considers Biden to be far left, we also face a difficult battle on that side of political theory, the only real option is to make sure that Republicans are finished and neoliberalism and leftism become the tango. We need to get rid of the electoral college ASAP imo.
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Something feels dirty about putting Vaush next to Chomsky and Brooks lmao. That dude is a fucking dork.

That aside, I agree that the sooner the battle becomes Left vs Liberal, the better.
 
BEER said:
Did you see that West Virginia passed a bill making it illegal for public employees to unionize? Shit is absolutely bonkers. I have a tiny glimmer of hope seeing people more interested in unionized than I have in my thirty years on this rock, though.
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I unionized my old place of work, successfully beat a decertification bid by a disgruntled member. But it didn't last a year after I left. Very disheartening.
 
Sickness1 said:
Totally agree. By the way are you going to play anytime soon?
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Yeah I'll be back to streaming regularly again soon. I was doing some volunteer stuff in a way to selfishly feel okay where my life is and been writing a bunch. I'll either get back into streaming tonight or tomorrow.
 
AgonyandIrony said:
Yeah I'll be back to streaming regularly again soon. I was doing some volunteer stuff in a way to selfishly feel okay where my life is and been writing a bunch. I'll either get back into streaming tonight or tomorrow.
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It's good to help yourself man. I have been doing the same thing. Just let me know when you go online.
 
irish_thug said:
I unionized my old place of work, successfully beat a decertification bid by a disgruntled member. But it didn't last a year after I left. Very disheartening.
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You said something once that I think about often, about how unionization shouldn't be essentially left wing.

Yet poor right wingers are typically the biggest roadblock towards working class unity, why do you think that is?
 
AgonyandIrony said:
You said something once that I think about often, about how unionization shouldn't be essentially left wing.

Yet poor right wingers are typically the biggest roadblock towards working class unity, why do you think that is?
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Poor white people tend to be tied to the church. The church is tied to the GOP.

It also doesn't help that a lot of unions, especially public sector ones, tend to publicly support causes that right wing folks cannot get behind.
 
irish_thug said:
Poor white people tend to be tied to the church. The church is tied to the GOP
It also doesn't help that a lot of unions, especially public sector ones, tend to publicly support causes that right wing folks cannot get behind.
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I initially thought about the battles between the KKK and the IWW, and lot of the initial labor movement was due to Jews and Catholics.

I suppose you're right, the GOP under Reagan decimated the future of public unions. You're rather critical of leftism and I respect that, smaller unions became more common and the IWW faded. We know now that in the US that unionization is demonized. Do you agree with the idea of "one big union"?
 
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