Social WR Lounge v 233, I Did Warn You This Was Coming

[Deleted member 405583]

They aren't going to trade Lonzo for Bev. They can get a lot better value then that lol. This isn't NBA 2k

Than*

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Moses is the most underrated for me. But I'm with you on Hakeem.... if I was starting a team from scratch and could draft anybody from anytime I'd pick Hakeem over Jordan.

GOAT tier
Jordan
Hakeem
Kareem
LeBron
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Shaq

Kobe belongs if Bird does.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

Not at all. He's better offensively as well.

Better in a different type of way though. Technically not more “dominant”if you get what I’m saying. Hakeem has more tools on offense(like shooting from the outside and free throws) but it’s hard to say shaq wasn’t “more” dominant at what he did best, in the paint.

like I said it’s kinda like pulling at straws and finding the right words to describe their skills.

I do pick Hakeem though just because his all around game was “better,” Or more diverse



Does it make sense to say Hakeem was better but shaq more dominant? Does that even make sense? It kinda sounds like it doesn’t but I find it the best way to describe their careers.

 

[Deleted member 405583]

@Rebelfett worth the team point?

100%

 

[LazaRRus]

He was more versatile on offense but was he really better? Shaq was unguardable and he played in the golden era of big men

Hakeem was unguardable. Go look at highlights. That's why Kobe and Lebron came down to Houston to work with him. Look up what MJ says

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

The thing with Shaq is coasted during the regular season as absurd as that sounds.

In the playoffs the true beast was unleashed. Look at his rebounding discrepancy between the regular season and playoffs

I like shaq and still believe one of the worst sports moves off all time was Orlando letting him go and breaking up that team that would’ve won a championship if they stayed together.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Kobe belongs if Bird does.

I felt obligated to include Bird with Magic so I'm not seen as a reverse racist lol

 

[Deleted member 405583]

John stockton is still one of the best to ever play.

If I'm starting a franchise he's one of my top 3 picks.

 

[LazaRRus]

Better in a different type of way though. Technically not more “dominant”if you get what I’m saying. Hakeem has more tools on offense(like shooting from the outside and free throws) but it’s hard to say shaq wasn’t “more” dominant at what he did best, in the paint.

like I said it’s kinda like pulling at straws and finding the right words to describe their skills.

I do pick Hakeem though just because his all around game was “better,” Or more diverse



Does it make sense to say Hakeem was better but shaq more dominant? Does that even make sense? It kinda sounds like it doesn’t but I find it the best way to describe their careers.

I understand what you're saying. Hard to argue against Shaq's pure power in the paint. He probably got fouled on nearly every possession.

Hakeem was just amazing to watch on both ends of the floor. He literally did everything.

 

[Deleted member 579584]

If I'm starting a franchise he's one of my top 3 picks.

Watching highlights with him and Karl always puts a smile to my face how good they where.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Does it make sense to say Hakeem was better but shaq more dominant? Does that even make sense? It kinda sounds like it doesn’t but I find it the best way to describe their careers.

Maybe it's like the difference between your #3 and #4 hitter in baseball. You want your "best hitter" 3rd and the power hitter 4th. Shaq was the NBA's greatest power hitter (if we equate dunks with home runs).

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

There was a great video I think @heavyarms21 posted in the NBA thread not that long ago breaking down Shaq's technique but I'm having trouble finding it

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

There was a great video I think @heavyarms21 posted in the NBA thread not that long ago breaking down Shaq's technique but I'm having trouble finding it

Pivot into a man's chest, bump him back, and slam it down on his head?

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Hakeem was unguardable. Go look at highlights. That's why Kobe and Lebron came down to Houston to work with him. Look up what MJ says

I guess my point is that if they are both unguardable is one better than the other? How can you be better than that?

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

I understand what you're saying. Hard to argue against Shaq's pure power in the paint. He probably got fouled on nearly every possession.

Hakeem was just amazing to watch on both ends of the floor. He literally did everything.

Yeah Hakeem could Literally hit Smooth 3 pointers. He was one of the best ever imo.

 

[heavyarms21]

There was a great video I think @heavyarms21 posted in the NBA thread not that long ago breaking down Shaq's technique but I'm having trouble finding it

Here is a pretty Good One. Shaq was monster , with way more skill than given credit for.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Here is a pretty Good One. Shaq was monster , with way more skill than given credit for.

That is the one, thanks dude!

@StoneColdSteveAustin this is pretty great imo at breaking down Shaq,s footwork and underrated D

 

[Deleted member 579584]

Hakeem was such a great player. Wished I seen him actually play live.

 

[LazaRRus]

I guess my point is that if they are both unguardable is one better than the other? How can you be better than that?

I have them ranked 3 and 4 respectively so obviously I'm not short changing Shaq. I just think Hakeem is the better player. It's obviously all subjective though

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

That is the one, thanks dude!

@StoneColdSteveAustin this is pretty great imo at breaking down Shaq,s footwork and underrated D

yeah I like shaq like I said. I was young when he came around and all the kids were drawn to him just like they were to Jordan. Breaking backboards and all that.

he could really move for a man that size. I’ll def watch that video. Thanks dude. Shaq is a legend