Opinion Wow. Viggo Mortensen telling the truth about Iraq war back in 2002

I remember the song 'Mosh' by Eminem although it was released 2 years later in 2004. I don't recall his sentiments being that unpopular at the time. Especially not in Hollywood.

It's possible sentiments shifted after the Iraq war was started since that wasn't a retaliation to a terrorist attack.
 
79 percent of Americans thought the Iraq invasion was justified with or without weapons. It’s cute watching Americans try to revise history years later.

You guys fucked up big time, at least own up to it. Don’t start blaming the government when the overwhelming support of the populace was the reason it happened.

It’s a joke to act like the whole country didn’t want it lol
 
79 percent of Americans thought the Iraq invasion was justified with or without weapons. It’s cute watching Americans try to revise history years later.

You guys fucked up big time, at least own up to it. Don’t start blaming the government when the overwhelming support of the populace was the reason it happened.

It’s a joke to act like the whole country didn’t want it lol

To be fair the public was deliberately mislead with the WMD, they used the goodwill of 911 to manufacture support for the war. I can't really blame anyone who was fooled with 911 fresh on the mind and the threat they were making Iraq out to be.

Cheaney and Bush should be in prison, it wasn't an honest mistake, they deliberately ignored intelligence assessments that questioned Iraq's WMD capabilities, exaggerated claims (e.g. Cheaney repeatedly claiming they had reconstituted nuclear weapons) and still invaded after those claims about mobile biological weapons labs were debunked.

The man even had the gall the joke about the lie that killed more Americans than 911 and maimed about 10 times more.
 
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90% of the American government or the 90% of the American people?

It was definitely not just the government lol.

The country was pretty bloodthirsty after 9/11. Anything that involved bombing the shit out of the middle east was a political W in those days
 
Nobody is pro-Iraq invasion. The idea, however, that we went in to steal their oil isn’t supported by the evidence. It was a complex plan with all kinds of interests and

Nobody is pro-Iraq invasion. The idea, however, that we went in to steal their oil isn’t supported by the evidence. It was a complex plan with all kinds of interests and motivations.

The oil companies didn’t have a seat in the table for planning, and they most certainly did not have a spot in getting the spoils of the war. Chinese companies did, but hardly any Western (much less US) companies got contracts for Iraqi oil.

So forgive me for disregarding someone who wears a No Blood for Oil shirt.
I mean, it’s not like we have ever seen a president after some military manoeuvring in a oil producing country say, “we have control of the oil”
 
I haven't seen many interviews with Aragorn before and after seeing this i have a lot of respect for him. He's telling hard truths that nobody wanted to hear back then. And he was 100% right.


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Yeah, we fucked that country up claiming we were looking for WMD. He's telling the truth in the short part I saw. As for the shirt, war for oil is most logical explanation of what we were doing there. Maybe that wasn't the reason but I'm sure WMD's were not the reason we were there either.
 
Nobody is pro-Iraq invasion. The idea, however, that we went in to steal their oil isn’t supported by the evidence. It was a complex plan with all kinds of interests and motivations.

The oil companies didn’t have a seat in the table for planning, and they most certainly did not have a spot in getting the spoils of the war. Chinese companies did, but hardly any Western (much less US) companies got contracts for Iraqi oil.

So forgive me for disregarding someone who wears a No Blood for Oil shirt.
It certainly was largely about oil. Just because we didn’t steal oil from them doesn’t mean we didn’t benefit greatly from standing up oil production to lower the price of oil, which we did do. There is no doubt that a stable, friendly Iraq drilling tons of oil is beneficial to the US. It might not be THE thing that we invaded over, but you’re flat out wrong if you don’t think it was a major motivation
 
So he is wrong and the US government were the good guys in the Iraq war ? Those WMDs better turn up soon or you guys are gonna look like lying assholes.....
- He is right. And dude was handsome as hell!
 
I remember the song 'Mosh' by Eminem although it was released 2 years later in 2004. I don't recall his sentiments being that unpopular at the time. Especially not in Hollywood.

It's possible sentiments shifted after the Iraq war was started since that wasn't a retaliation to a terrorist attack.
- Matt Damon and others were against the war!
 
Nobody is pro-Iraq invasion. The idea, however, that we went in to steal their oil isn’t supported by the evidence. It was a complex plan with all kinds of interests and motivations.

The oil companies didn’t have a seat in the table for planning, and they most certainly did not have a spot in getting the spoils of the war. Chinese companies did, but hardly any Western (much less US) companies got contracts for Iraqi oil.

So forgive me for disregarding someone who wears a No Blood for Oil shirt.

you had time to write all that shit you could've just watched the video and seen how irrelevant what you just said was.


90% of the American government or the 90% of the American people?

If you were around then you'd know kid, it was most of the people.
 
It certainly was largely about oil. Just because we didn’t steal oil from them doesn’t mean we didn’t benefit greatly from standing up oil production to lower the price of oil, which we did do. There is no doubt that a stable, friendly Iraq drilling tons of oil is beneficial to the US. It might not be THE thing that we invaded over, but you’re flat out wrong if you don’t think it was a major motivation
This is the problem, just because someone benefited from something, does not mean that was the motivation. No matter what you do in this world, someone will benefit. We benefited China in a huge way in Iraq and Afghanistan. Was that part of the plan? Obviously not.

And the funny thing is that oil was not expensive prior to invasion, it became expensive after, so that explanation doesn't work.

Furthermore, there has been lots of explanations for the Iraq war by people who were there, and oil is never mentioned. There's a lot of talk about ultimately overthrowing Iran (a domino effect theory), about establishing a huge air base in Iraq, Israeli strategic interest, etc.
 
you had time to write all that shit you could've just watched the video and seen how irrelevant what you just said was.




If you were around then you'd know kid, it was most of the people.
Make a better thread next time then. There's nothing more worthless than posting a YouTube video without a description and expecting people to watch it. In fact, I am almost certain there's rules against that. Your thread sucks.
 
Make a better thread next time then. There's nothing more worthless than posting a YouTube video without a description and expecting people to watch it. In fact, I am almost certain there's rules against that. Your thread sucks.

Viggo's shirt was your first excuse. now it's my thread.

Gen Z i take it?
 
Viggo's shirt was your first excuse. now it's my thread.

Gen Z i take it?
Buddy, I said I gave your thread a chance because of the time stamp. Do you understand implications? I thought it was complete ass, but decided to give a chance anyways.
 

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