Would Francis Ngannou vs. Jon Jones be the biggest fight in MMA today?

Would Francis Ngannou vs. Jon Jones be the biggest fight in MMA today?


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Besides mcg, name one mma fighter that has more big media coverage in the world than ngannou....
There you have it.
He's been pushed like crazy not only by the pfl but for his 2 big boxing matches, and also for his uncommon personal history, all that covered world wide for a long while now.
Did fedor ever got that kind of exposure ? Obviously not.
So that should tell you something, whether sherdog likes him or not, whether some fans in the mma community likes him or not most ppl in the world do, most people have nothing but love for him if not sympathy. Again, beside mcg maybe, no one right now comes close to ngannou in term of global fame. Jones comes after but to this day he still has that aura of being jon jones the goat of the ufc if not mma, the guy who's done things that will probably never be replicated.
Even the mcg of todays doesn't seem to be a credible candidate to "what would be the biggest fight now".

So who else if not jones vs francis ?
Why do you think Francis fights (including his boxing matches) perform so badly in terms of numbers if this is all true?
 
If Jones beats Stipe, then Alex Pereira x Jon Jones might actually be bigger.

The two best LHWs meeting @ HW for Pereira's 3rd Weight Class Belt.

how can it be the 2 best LHWs when Pereira hasn't dealt with all the current contenders?
 
@frontkick1 you know, just to be clear, i'm not trying to be in any shape or form negative towards ngannou. I think he'd send Jones to a shadow realm and good for the guy if he has a lot of fans and best luck to him.

It's just the whole 180 is wierd as hell and if you've been around this forum, and talked to people over the years about ngannou during his run, i think you'd know exactly what I mean. It's a very, very strange thing, and I know this because when you try to talk up someone and defend someone in this forum, you know what the public sentiments has been about that guy over the years. And it hasn't really been much over the years.

Just wanted to clear it up since it may sound like i'm trying to shit on the guy's parade or anything like that. I mean, to me, the bottom line is he's really no better than a better version of Jamahall Hill. And if you actually followed his career to this point, I think it'd be very hard to disagree with that, but hey I guess people can have different opinions and I respect that fully.

I'd def love to see Ngannou send Jones to a shadow realm, but I doubt it ever happens if Jones has any say in it, he is shook real bad me thinks.
Sorry i definitly don't understand the jamal Hill comparison...come on

Beside of that sherdog is the biggest and most complete mma site since forever but except a few posters the ufc forum is the last place to search for some logics and insightful conversations. You've been there for some times now you should know it.
fallon fox had big media coverage once. what does that mean?

ngannou's run was short. no one really rated him that highly during his run. I did, so I know what most had to say about him back then. i don't care about what mainstream noobs have to say. but i'm not here to shit on the guy either. good for him that you think highly for him.
"fallon fox had big media coverage once. what does that mean?" 🤦🏽
You just ruined your whole comment

You don't care what mainstrean noobs have to say but the mainstream interest don't care what you think or say.
yeah he got shook by ferreira, looked slow and rusty and had to wrestle after a couple minutes.

but really, good for him, i mean, nothing wrong with being a fan of anyone, really, you do you man.

I see only one man being shook here. I guess the one that got ktfo in under 4mn in one rd
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Talking about sport as a fan(which i'm not) or as a hater has no interest for me.
The big boxing matches that sold 67k (Fury) and 4.6k (Joshua) PPVs?
You're right. Yet one way or the other you watched it, sherdoggers watched it, i also did, every one watched it and talked about it. It matters in some way.
And not the least, it was more covered worlwide than any ufc event this year.
The Saudis making big noise injecting money in combat sports rub some people the wrong way but they're not about to stop anytime soon.
 
Do you seriously believe that Tom has not improved since his 3rd pro fight? A green 22 year old got caught with a heel hook in MMA.

Tom's a total scrub, was never legit, or my friend.

Come on now.

What elite grapplers has Jon faced? Especially what elite HEAVYWEIGHT grapplers? Sure, Tom lost via heel hook... once. Hasn't lost to a single heel hook since so I guess he still took something away from that fight though.

Blaydes was piecing him up in their first fight? Based on what? The whole 14 seconds before Tom blew his knee out? How did their second fight go? You know, the one where Tom didn't blow his knee out? How did that fight go?

Oddly enough and to his credit, Jones actually does has more submission wins between the two fighters, totaling Jon's 7- to Tom's 3, with both having won fights by 3 different submission types.

If only Tom wasn't too busy knocking out legitimate heavyweights, racking up 12 (T)KO's to Jon's 10 in 11 less pro fights over 6-ish less years.

Yes, I think Aspinall handles Jon easily. Just my opinion. Tom's a big strong dude, he's young, and he moves well. I also base that on what I have seen Jon and Tom accomplish in the past few years, body of work at HW, and what each of the two fighters is looking for. Miocic does nothing for Jon's greatness or legacy, and devalues the HW title, it is purely a money grab, period.

Taking the risks, putting in the rounds, getting the wins, scoring those "of the night" bonuses... what Tom has been doing... that's why I think Aspinall handles Jon. One of the two champs is chasing the other one, but who is ducking the tough fight?
The quality of your wins is related to the quality of your opponents. The HW division has very little.

In the fight with Austin, Tom was use to stopping his fights early so the question was how he dealt with a fight that he could not knock someone out early. Someone who was smaller than him and who had formidable or better grappling. He had a hard time outgrappling Stuart.

Stuart and jones are similar in that they use judo throws and trips from the clinch. Tom had trouble with that in the Austin fight and will have trouble with jones in the clinch.

Yes, Blaydes was piecing him up in the first fight , all of 14 seconds. Aspinall even tried to throw a lazy jumping knee strike and got stiffed by Blaydes. He also pieced him up in the second fight. Tom has knockout power and moves well but If you watch Toms fights, he gets hit alot and hit alot when coming in and out of the pocket. He sometimes jumps into incoming strikes. He will have problems with Ngannou in the stand up.
 
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Sorry i definitly don't understand the jamal Hill comparison...come on

Beside of that sherdog is the biggest and most complete mma site since forever but except a few posters the ufc forum is the last place to search for some logics and insightful conversations. You've been there for some times now you should know it.

"fallon fox had big media coverage once. what does that mean?" 🤦🏽
You just ruined your whole comment

You don't care what mainstrean noobs have to say but the mainstream interest don't care what you think or say.


I see only one man being shook here. I guess the one that got ktfo in under 4mn in one rd
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Talking about sport as a fan(which i'm not) or as a hater has no interest for me.

You're right. Yet one way or the other you watched it, sherdoggers watched it, i also did, every one watched it and talked about it. It matters in some way.
And not the least, it was more covered worlwide than any ufc event this year.
The Saudis making big noise injecting money in combat sports rub some people the wrong way but they're not about to stop anytime soon.

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all right man, ngannou goat u happy?

i do hope we see Ngannou vs Jon Jones cuz I would love to see the outcome of that fight. I just don't think is happening cuz Jones doesn't want none, but who wouldn't wanna see Jon Jones going to a shadow realm?
 
Why do you think Francis fights (including his boxing matches) perform so badly in terms of numbers if this is all true?
You guys need to have a better understanding of things. PPVs don't do everything.
Guess what, if everything was aligned for the ufc to make this fight happen, be sure they'd jump on it in seconds no matter what the numbers once were on the past. They would promote it like crazy as one of the greatest HW fight ever if not the greatest.

To tell the truth i don't get how you guys don't understand that
 
McGregor vs Islam would be bigger.

I think Aspinal vs Ngannou would be arguably the best and most exciting heavyweight fight that could be made at this time.
 
Man, it's Jon vs. Stipe, just ask any schill or fan boy, it's obvious duh.
 
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all right man, ngannou goat u happy?

i do hope we see Ngannou vs Jon Jones cuz I would love to see the outcome of that fight. I just don't think is happening cuz Jones doesn't want none, but who wouldn't wanna see Jon Jones going to a shadow realm?
What the hell is wrong with you man ? Don't be like a spoiled child. Why should i agree with you if i'm not ? I mean.. come on man
 
We do not know if Tom improved, the HW division is a shit hole. Tybura was gassing out in the fight against Aspinall. Volkov was a gate keeper for years in a tougher HW division. Jones made a guy who is burning through it look like a kid. Pavlovich and Blaydes seem to think they are great strikers. The problem here is that we do not know if the HW division is worth much nor those wins.

Tom is a very good fighter but he is unproven in a lot of areas and defensive wrestling is one of them. In the fight with Austin, Tom was used to stopping his fights early so the question was how he dealt with a fight that he could not knock someone out early. Someone who was smaller than him and who had formidable or better grappling. Stuart and jones are similar in that they use judo throws and trips from the clinch. Tom had trouble with that in the Austin fight and will have trouble with jones in the clinch. Jones is a much better grappler than Stuart.

Jones has actually outwrestled a slew of wrestlers and decorated black belts including DC.

Yes, Blaydes was piecing him up in the first fight , all of 14 seconds. He also pieced him up in the second fight. Tom has knockout power which is why he wins. If You watch Toms fight, he gets hit alot when coming in and out of the pocket. Ngannou will and can put him right out.

Except everyone does know that Tom has improved since then. You would have to be completely obtuse to think that the 15-3 UFC HW champion Aspinall is of the same caliber as the 3-1 BAMMA version of himself. There's grasping at straws, and then there is reality. If Blaydes was the better fighter, he would have beat Tom in the rematch. He didn't, so here we are.

Aspinall has years of accomplishments at heavyweight, and the record and performances to prove he is a legitimate champion. Jones has literally had about two minutes of HW ring-time in his life, against stylistically the least dangerous opponent to him for a vacant title. Jones is virtually unproven in MOST areas when it comes to fighting and competing against other natural heavyweights, so trying to find reasons to discredit Tom at 265lbs while touting how good Jones is makes zero sense. Jones himself didn't even want to fight DC at HW.

If Jones wants to claim he's the best, fine. Just shut the fuck up, fight the best opponents and prove it. Fight Tom and Frank, whip their asses and prove it. If you aren't going to do that, then turn your belt in and go home. The real GOAT's don't duck challengers, they go for it.
 
You guys need to have a better understanding of things. PPVs don't do everything.
Guess what, if everything was aligned for the ufc to make this fight happen, be sure they'd jump on it in seconds no matter what the numbers once were on the past. They would promote it like crazy as one of the greatest HW fight ever if not the greatest.

To tell the truth i don't get how you guys don't understand that
How does the fight game work if it isn't based around money?
 
Conor vs Khabib was like 1000000000 times bigger. Jones isn't even an amazing draw, neither was Francis and both are old 40yr old cans now anyway to make people excited about the fight.
 
Conor vs Khabib was like 1000000000 times bigger. Jones isn't even an amazing draw, neither was Francis and both are old 40yr old cans now anyway to make people excited about the fight.

We're talking which fight would be the biggest today.
 
Jones is pretty popular by today's standard. He is probably the biggest PPV artist after Mcgregor. I don't think Francis is a draw. Everyone loves the underdog heartwarming story about overcoming adversity but not enough to buy it. Maybe if Jones calls him a migrant or something then the clip will go viral.
 
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