Would Floyd go down as the best ever if he...
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If Floyd fights GGG it would only be to his own credit. He doesn't have to fight someone who is a legit MW like that. He didn't even have to fight Canelo and even the suggestion of Martinez should be unplausable. However, I say it would be to his credit if he fought because he would never beat GGG. People want him to keep stepping up in weight until he loses just so they can say he was never that good to begin with.
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Cotto is a definite yes. Pre-Margarito Cotto was a different fighter.
De la Hoya was about 5 years past his prime, same with Mosley. Even Marquez a bit. He's kinda having a resurgence but people are forgetting he was 36 when he fought Mayweather.
Though it's also true that he himself is probably a bit past his prime. It's a tough situation to analyze.
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Still..... no Pacquiao. That should have happened. And without Pacquiao, hard to be ATG.
Good! Even better reason to fight him.
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Its not even that though. Its the fact that he completely shut them down that is amazing.
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People are losing sight of how Mayweather beats people. He makes world champions look like decent fighters. He literally embarrasses world class professional championship boxers. I don't think there has been anyone that dominant with the exception of Roy Jones Jr. in the last few generations of boxers. Especially looking at the Canelo fight, Mayweather employed at least 3 different game plans that all required different rhythms, tempos, styles, etc. How many boxers have we seen that has been that intelligent in boxing history? Also keep in mind that this was the best Canelo we have ever seen.
A fight with GGG is highly unlikely. Martinez is ridiculous considering the weight classes. Even if he were to fight them, history would reject it because of the weight drainage that would have to happen. (think Ray Leonard and the light heavyweight championship) Pacquiao undermined his own status in boxing by getting knocked out, even though the first few rounds were the best he fought against Marquez. In short, I don't see how the aforementioned can improve his status in the pages of history. And quite frankly, I'm not sure why it's those 3 fighters, in particular the first 2, that would determine a better legacy for Mayweather should he beat them.
That said, I don't think there's anyone else Mayweather can or should beat to solidify his status in boxing history.
A fight with GGG is highly unlikely. Martinez is ridiculous considering the weight classes. Even if he were to fight them, history would reject it because of the weight drainage that would have to happen. (think Ray Leonard and the light heavyweight championship) Pacquiao undermined his own status in boxing by getting knocked out, even though the first few rounds were the best he fought against Marquez. In short, I don't see how the aforementioned can improve his status in the pages of history. And quite frankly, I'm not sure why it's those 3 fighters, in particular the first 2, that would determine a better legacy for Mayweather should he beat them.
That said, I don't think there's anyone else Mayweather can or should beat to solidify his status in boxing history.
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Yeah, the Top Rank - Golden Boy saga had nothing to do with it at all. Come on man, get a grip of reality here. This fight was never going to happen with these two. To only blame one party and not both is foolish.
Saying that, Mayweather has beaten everyone that's been put in front of him, which is a fairly solid list of fighters. If any of the other "greats" were to come up against him right now I would be hard pressed to bet against him. Mayweather has the ability to adapt to any fighter. We've seen that time and time again.
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A strong argument could already be made that he's the best ever, it's not just who he has beat, it's the way he beat them. JMM was #3 P4P and got completely shutout, Diego Corrales was supposed to be his biggest test, Shutout. Now Canelo was younger, stronger, etc.... Shutout.
I'd like to see him fight either Martinez or Garcia.
I'd like to see him fight either Martinez or Garcia.
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Oscar quit on his stool.
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Both you guys get it. Dismantling world champions is what he does, and he doesn't get enough credit for how he wins. If you want to just look at wins and losses, fine, but if you actually watch the fights, many of the best wins on the records of the GOATS are ugly and somewhat unimpressive and unconvincing. Floyd leaves zero doubt that he was the better man.
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I think this is being very overlooked.
Juan has never been dominated by any fighter in the history of the sport but Floyd. people like to say the weight but juan proved them wrong by fighting 3 times there and looking good against an all time great by out boxing him once and putting him to sleep.
Juan looks great at 147 and I didnt have floyd losing a round. canelo gatti, corrales, hatton, zab, shane he beats these guys with no doubts. It truly is amazing.
