Would DC be a atg if Jones never got suspended

[Pancake Sprawl]

You don't have any argument and any evidence.

Thanks to prove me right and not wasting my time anymore.

 

[StoneWT]

GEPOAT maybe. Greatest Eye Poker Of All Time.

 

[Dave Poodle]

If we're asking about how things would have gone if Jon wasn't suspended we have to ask how things would have gone in Jon wasn't roiding. Far too many variables to know.

 

[Yellowcrab]

So to the readers : DC is supposed to have done several eye pokes but that's all what Miocic's fanboys have

I don't see any eye poke, i see a punch. DC is probably playing with the rules here, but no referee can blame him for that. It remains a punch to the eye.

Do you see an eye poke there too ?

I see a punch that landed as it landed. Those things happen.

So no evidence as expected.

Here's what an actual eye poke :

Where are the evidence, i don't see any ?

How many eye pokes did he receive ?

 

[Substance Abuse]

He poked Stipe in the fucking eye on purpose several times. It happened in all 3 fights. And he actually kod him after one of the pokes. Brutalized his eyes so bad he needed surgery.

Winning a belt like DC did and defending it once doesn’t qualify one as an ATG. Not in my mind anyway.

On purpose? Please. I guess Stipe eye poked him on purpose in the third fight? Lol.

Anyway, to address the thread, if Cain Velasquez never existed would DC be one of the best Heavyweights of all time, is probably a better question. I think it's likely, honestly.

 

[Mind Mine]

No. His whole championship career is because Jones had a car accident. Otherwise he was not getting a rematch with Jones at LHW and wasn't fighting for the HW belt. He was done.

We have some clowns who consider DC the 2nd best LHW of all time despite barely having a resume at LHW. Their reasoning? "DC would have beaten everyone if not for Jones". There is absolutley no proof of that.

Let’s be for real. There is flat out nothing in Tito Ortiz’s arsenal that DC would struggle with or wasn’t superior at. Chuck hits hard but not only does DC hit hard he wrestles irrefutably better. The only chance Chuck stood is a puncher’s chance which if Rumble couldn’t capatalize NEITHER COULD CHUCK. The game evolved and many fighter from that era simply would not be elite today in their prime form. You should be happy for that. It is a natural fucking evolution that your fossilized ass seems to be in denial of. Of course if you would like to acknowledge record alone as your criteria have at it. Not understanding that DC was a far more evolved BETTER fighter than Tito lol man stop.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

On purpose? Please. I guess Stipe eye poked him on purpose in the third fight? Lol.

Anyway, to address the thread, if Cain Velasquez never existed would DC be one of the best Heavyweights of all time, is probably a better question. I think it's likely, honestly.

i think they both did it on purpose. it's a fight. if you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin

 

[Substance Abuse]

i think they both did it on purpose. it's a fight. if you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin

I don't think either did.

 

[Yellowcrab]

i think they both did it on purpose. it's a fight. if you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin

Not an eye poke and if considered as such, could be completely unvoluntary.

But i think DC is smart and playing with the rules here.

That's the only evidence people have about DC, the only clear picture, everything else are just bullshit GIFs from bad angles.

However, DC definitely tried to eye poke Miocic in the first fight, but barely touched him at the end. He tried but failed, hence why there's no picture on the Internet despite all the DC haters.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

I don't think either did.

why is that? it can't be a coincidence that they both poked/attempted to poke each other a bunch of times. i think DC did it because he wanted to win and Stipe did it as pay back. Stipe hasn't poked anyone else and neither has DC.

 

[Substance Abuse]

why is that? it can't be a coincidence that they both poked/attempted to poke each other a bunch of times. i think DC did it because he wanted to win and Stipe did it as pay back. Stipe hasn't poked anyone else and neither has DC.

Well combined they've only fought once and for a total of seven minutes since that trilogy, lol.

 

[Yellowcrab]

I don't think either did.

"Involuntary"

 

[Substance Abuse]

"Involuntary"

"Involuntary".

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Not an eye poke and if considered as such, could be completely unvoluntary.

But i think DC is smart and playing with the rules here.

That's the only evidence people have about DC, the only clear picture, everything else are just bullshit GIFs from bad angles.

However, DC definitely tried to eye poke Miocic in the first fight, but barely touched him at the end. He tried but failed, hence why there's no picture on the Internet despite all the DC haters.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Well combined they've only fought once and for a total of seven minutes since that trilogy, lol.

but i mean the eyepokes are an outlier in their whole careers. i don't remember either guy poking anyone, and then every time they fight each other they turn into Jon Jones.

 

[nonoob]

Well, he did evolve to adapt the jbj eye poke scum-baggery.

 

[Yellowcrab]

I don't even understand the point of your comment

 

[J-Pac]

Still would be one of the best fighters we've ever seen. Still in the mix of best guys of all time.

 

[ferrisjso]

Let’s be for real. There is flat out nothing in Tito Ortiz’s arsenal that DC would struggle with or wasn’t superior at. Chuck hits hard but not only does DC hit hard he wrestles irrefutably better. The only chance Chuck stood is a puncher’s chance which if Rumble couldn’t capatalize NEITHER COULD CHUCK. The game evolved and many fighter from that era simply would not be elite today in their prime form. You should be happy for that. It is a natural fucking evolution that your fossilized ass seems to be in denial of. Of course if you would like to acknowledge record alone as your criteria have at it. Not understanding that DC was a far more evolved BETTER fighter than Tito lol man stop.

So not only do you have DC as the 2nd best LHW ever you have Tito and Chuck as 3 and 4 and assumed I was speaking on their behalf?


Have you forgotten the glorious Machida era? Machida, Evans, Rampage, Shogun. Phil Davis was never finished. But you think I'm talking about Tito and Chuck? Really?

You are making it worse.

 

[woodsideQ]

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Discuss I think no because he never would have held a belt

what if DC wasn't in the same gym as Cain and fought at HW?
what if DC was born a female