Would DC be a atg if Jones never got suspended

[mmacanada]

Discuss I think no because he never would have held a belt

 

[ArtardFiesta]

DC would basically be a merab or current max holloway if jones never got suspended. He would basically be weeding out the division for Jones and making it quicker for him to clear it out.
He could have likely moved up to HW.

 

[ferrisjso]

No. His whole championship career is because Jones had a car accident. Otherwise he was not getting a rematch with Jones at LHW and wasn't fighting for the HW belt. He was done.

We have some clowns who consider DC the 2nd best LHW of all time despite barely having a resume at LHW. Their reasoning? "DC would have beaten everyone if not for Jones". There is absolutley no proof of that.

 

[DS66]

That's a big what-if scenario and impossible to know how it would have played out. You're right that he would have been much less likely to win a belt, and the lack of belt would of course have completely changed the way people look at his place in history.

Having said that.... I kinda think he would have eventually moved up to HW and won the belt there regardless. He was always at his best at HW. If he lost to Jones in a couple title shots, and Jones was never suspended and just continued fighting and defending his belt, I think DC would have moved up to HW a lot earlier and I'd favor him at his peak over any of the HW's of that era other than Cain (and he was never going to fight his buddy Cain anyways). Cain lost his belt in 2015 and was never active after that, DC could have definitely moved up at that point and been a HW champ with some defenses and still secured his place as an all-time great (I think DC at his peak was the better fighter than Stipe).

 

[Yellowcrab]

We have some clowns who consider DC the 2nd best LHW of all time despite barely having a resume at LHW. Their reasoning? "DC would have beaten everyone if not for Jones". There is absolutley no proof of that.

He brutalized Miocic while being out of prime in their first fight.

I think it's more than enough we need to know.

His only rival was Jon Jones.

 

[p4pfighters]

no, he should have stayed in 1 weight class and build his legacy, he was never the best light heavy, and his HW resume is mediocre at best.

 

[El Fernas]

He would had got the rematch for the title but probably lost the 2nd time too, not saying he isnt any good, just not beating Jones good, probably still moves up to HW and gets the belt just the same, still could had been considered an ATG if he dominates HW, its not like being 2nd best LHW only to Jones is a bad thing.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

He brutalized Miocic while being out of prime in their first fight.

I think it's more than enough we need to know.

His only rival was Jon Jones.

He poked Stipe in the fucking eye on purpose several times. It happened in all 3 fights. And he actually kod him after one of the pokes. Brutalized his eyes so bad he needed surgery.

Winning a belt like DC did and defending it once doesn’t qualify one as an ATG. Not in my mind anyway.

 

[EYEKICKFACES]

 

[30455378008]

He could have competed for the hw title still

 

[Yellowcrab]

He poked Stipe in the fucking eye on purpose several times. It happened in all 3 fights. And he actually kod him after one of the pokes.

Hence why you don't have a single evidence to back up your claim.

There were hundreds of cameras that night, so i'm asking for a very simple evidence such as this one :

But you don't have any evidence, because outside of bullshit GIFs from bad angles there's nothing.

Not to mention the referee gave him time to recover, so it's irrelevant anyway.

Cormier won fair and square, no matter how much you hate this fact.

Fortunately, Cormier got even older and Miocic finally beat him in 2 very competitive fights (not a brutal KO like the first one).

Also, since it happened in all 3 fights, why DC didn't win the 3 fights ? This is what happens : a biased point of view leads to nonsense.

Brutalized his eyes so bad he needed surgery.

Who cares ? Bisping lost his eye because of what then ?

Why do boxers need eye surgeries too ?

It's a lame and irrelevant argument : being punched in the face can lead to eye injuries. As simple as that.

 

[El Fernas]

He poked Stipe in the fucking eye on purpose several times. It happened in all 3 fights. And he actually kod him after one of the pokes. Brutalized his eyes so bad he needed surgery.

Winning a belt like DC did and defending it once doesn’t qualify one as an ATG. Not in my mind anyway.

DC was the one getting eye poked badly in the 3rd fight iirc, not saying he didnt in the other two tho.

 

[Sincere Guy]

He brutalized Miocic while being out of prime in their first fight.

I think it's more than enough we need to know.

His only rival was Jon Jones.

It seems it was more a fluke than anything. Without vicious eyepokes he would never win that fight anyway, as Miocic proved in the trilogy (with Cormier still trying the dirty eyepoke tactics, just to remember). I mean, DC was good, but not a monster like some people say.

 

[Yellowcrab]

It seems it was more a fluke than anything. Without vicious eyepokes he would never win that fight anyway, as Miocic proved in the trilogy (with Cormier still trying the dirty eyepoke tactics, just to remember). I mean, DC was good, but not a monster like some people say.

Show me a single picture of an eye poke from DC, or it's irrelevant.

There were hundreds of cameras that night, so obviously you have several pictures of eye pokes from Comier.

I mean he did many eye pokes, so obviously the pictures are all over the Internet.

I'm waiting

 

[Sincere Guy]

Show me a single picture of an eye poke from DC, or it's irrelevant.

There were hundreds of cameras that night, so obviously you have several pictures of eye pokes from Comier.

I mean he did many eye pokes, so obviously the pictures are all over the Internet.

I'm waiting

You can sit, it's better, because I won't feed the troll.

 

[Yellowcrab]

Also to give context to all the haters in this thread :

Cormier received an extremely brutal eye poke as documented by this video and this picture (when something actually happens under hundreds of cameras, you find clear and irrefutable evidence) :

Not only that but he didn't get any time to recover by the referee as proven here : https://www.scmp.com/sport/martial-...7604/ufc-252-marc-goddard-sorry-missing-stipe

Also, Cormier was 41 years old in that fight.

If anything, that's what i call a fluke : needing to cheat to beat a fighter that should have been already retired. Yet not even being able to get a finish...

 

[infinite666]

He poked Stipe in the fucking eye on purpose several times. It happened in all 3 fights. And he actually kod him after one of the pokes. Brutalized his eyes so bad he needed surgery.

Winning a belt like DC did and defending it once doesn’t qualify one as an ATG. Not in my mind anyway.

Not to mention his only defense was fucking lewis

 

[Yellowcrab]

You can sit, it's better, because I won't feed the troll.

You don't have any argument and any evidence.

Thanks to prove me right and not wasting my time anymore.

 

[Captain_Dammitt]

Would it always be dry if it never rained? It doesn't matter because that storm was always going to come.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

No. His whole championship career is because Jones had a car accident. Otherwise he was not getting a rematch with Jones at LHW and wasn't fighting for the HW belt. He was done.

We have some clowns who consider DC the 2nd best LHW of all time despite barely having a resume at LHW. Their reasoning? "DC would have beaten everyone if not for Jones". There is absolutley no proof of that.

Don't feed the troll guys.
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